• artyom@piefed.social
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    Fired at her windshield with a paintball gun, presumably filled with teargas.

    Also no previous context included but it looks like she was on the run.

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      Also no previous context included but it looks like she was on the run.

      This isn’t publicfreakout on reddit. Pretending that there’s some context to absolve people you agree with for actions you support in all contexts isn’t gonna be received well here.

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        I don’t know what that is but you just made up a whole lot of nonsense about me based on nothing. Would you like to try again, or are you not interested in a good faith discussion and you just replied in an explicit attempt to offend me?

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          you just made up a whole lot of nonsense about me based on nothing

          Anyone who sees the gestapo acting like the gestapo and is like “there must be some context that justifies this” does so because they support the actions of the gestapo in all circumstances, regardless of context.

          Would you like to try again

          No, I’ve said all I needed to.

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            “there must be some context that justifies this”

            You also fabricated that. I don’t agree with that. Writing incredibly misleading headlines like this absolutely destroys the credibility of the entire movement, and will be weaponized against it, as we’ve seen time and time again.

            No, I’ve said all I needed to.

            Excellent, feel free to fuck off at your earliest convenience.

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              You also fabricated that. I don’t agree with that.

              And you totally just wanted more context because you think it might make the gestapo look worse.

              No. You wanted to pretend that the gestapo were justified.

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                What happened to “I’ve said all I need to”?

                I’ve already explained why the context is important in the comment you just replied to. If you choose to ignore it, that’s not something I can help you with.

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                  Writing incredibly misleading headlines like this absolutely destroys the credibility of the entire movement, and will be weaponized against it, as we’ve seen time and time again.

                  Is this your “explanation” for why you were pretending that there is some phantom context that absolves the gestapo? Because all I’m seeing is tone policing.

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      Also no previous context included but it looks like she was on the run.

      “There’s no info on what happened before so I’m going to make up a justification and present it as truth”

      Fuck off Nazi

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        “I don’t like what this person said so I’m gonna fabricate some complete and utter bullshit and attribute it to them”

        Get absolutely fucked.

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        What would you like me to explain, exactly? I don’t have anymore details than you do.

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          Apparently you have enough information we don’t to claim she’s an illegal crime lord and deserves this, so let’s hear it. Don’t be a coward now, fash

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              You do realize your comments here are visible to everyone, yes? These aren’t DMs, boomer. Gaslighting is silly to even try, so I’m not sure why you bothered.

              Again, don’t be a coward like your kind always are when confronted. Let’s see your evidence. Seeing as it’s so obvious and we’re all so wrong, this should be very easy for you.

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                You’re absolutely right, I’m not sure why you’re trying to gaslight everyone when they can all see your comments.

                LOL you cannot bully me into providing evidence for claims I have not made. You can take your strawman somewhere else.

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                  Oh no, am I bullying you? I’m sure that’s very frightening for you, having to read mean words on the internet. Have you tried not being a sniveling melodramatic crybaby?

                  I’m giving you a chance to back up your claims, show you’re not a fascist and prove us all wrong. Your side keeps claiming we hate free speech and stifle debate. Here you go, I’m a giving you a platform. This is your chance to hit the heavy bag, champ. Show us what you got.

                  You claim that this person was on the run and that they endangered other people, pets, and personal property. Again, we can see those comments you made and screenshot them if you’re still confused about how forums work, so trying to pretend you didn’t is braindead and isn’t working, and borders on mental illness. Literally no one here except you thinks those comments aren’t visible and referenceable.

                  Let’s see the evidence you have for your stance. Go on now, snort up them tears for a few seconds and make me regret calling you a fascist. I believe in you.

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                    Jesus, you’re insufferable. Literally everything you’re saying is nonsense and you know it. You’re being blocked now, goodbye.

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                it looks like she was on the run.

                Shes an illegal crime lord and deserves this

                Why are you pretending to be unable to discern these statements that have literally nothing in common?

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                  I’m not the person you blocked, who was obviously exaggerating for effect.

                  But this is still a claim, which you made while admitting you had no context. Why did you make that claim?

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                    I don’t care who you are, those statements are still not the same and I did not make that claim. And I don’t understand why you’re pretending I did unless you’re just like the other person who labels me as “the other side”, assumes a bunch of bullshit about me based on the fact that I added much-needed context, and then there’s nothing I could possibly say that you would even consider.

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      What context would make it alright for an unidentified masked paramilitary organization to snatch you out of your car?

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        What context did you use to derive that anyone thought any of this was “alright”?

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          Then how is your made-up “context” anywhere near relevant? It sure looks like a way to excuse what they’re doing here.

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            What makes you think my context is “made up”?

            Why don’t you think facts are relevant?

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              “It looks like she’s on the run” is not facts.

              Also, again, irrelevant. There’s no excuse for this fascist horse shit. I wouldn’t give half a fuck if anyone did run from these dickheads, and they don’t need a reason besides skin color or accent to kidnap people.

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                “It looks like she’s on the run” is not facts.

                That’s not the “fact” I was referring to.

                Also, again, irrelevant…I wouldn’t give half a fuck if anyone did run

                The level of resistance is entirely relevant to the use of force. I would recommend researching the use of force continuum.

                If she is running, that would explain why they needed to subdue her, so she could not continue running and kill or maim someone else or cause tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in property damage.

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                  These aren’t cops dummy. They are chasing her and pepper balling her kids because they are the wrong color.

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                    Who said anything about cops dummy?

                    Why they’re chasing her is a different discussion from the use of force necessary to detain her.

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                  Fuck off, fasc trash.

                  This is America, where we still technically have a 4th amendment.

                  The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

                  I’m not playing your stupid games. Just fuck off.

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                    LOL let me get this straight: this woman could drive her car through the front door of your house or mow down your children on the sidewalk, and if that happens you’re just going to shrug your shoulders and say “shit happens 🤷”? And if you do anything else, you’re a “fasc”?

                    E: for your edit: the 4th amendment is not without limitations. Just as every other right in the Bill of Rights isn’t. But you know that already…

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        LOL every time. “Let’s not have a nuanced discussion, let’s just fling personal insults and continue omitting pertinent context so that everyone labels us shitty liars and we just make everything worse. Fuck it.”

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          There’s no discussion to be had when there’s such a blatant disregard for human rights, and such an overt abuse of power. I don’t care what that lady did, I can guarantee you she did nothing to receive that level of threat of violence, or to warrant that amount of force from 5 overgrown cowardly motherfuckers. What you are saying is that maybe she deserved being treated like that because we don’t know the full details. What everyone else is saying is that no ordinary civilian should be treated like that, ever. Fuck your pertinent context.

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            What you’re saying is that you don’t give a shit about the lives of other drivers, pedestrians, pets or hundreds of thousands of dollars in personal property damage. Do those “human rights” not matter? Fuck you.

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        That’s a pretty horrendous thing to wish on someone who did nothing but add context…