Local 4 NewsĀ in Detroit broadcast portions of the recording. In it, a speaker identified as Bally is heard saying, āWe have s**t for f***king poor people. Who buys our s**t? I donāt buy Campbellās products barely anymore. Itās not healthy now that I know what the f**ās in it.ā
He also referenced ābioengineered meat,ā saying, āI donāt wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.ā
The recording, which lasted longer than an hour and 15 minutes, included what Garza said was a ādisgustingā rant alleged to be made by Bally about his coworkers: āF***ing Indians donāt know a f***ing thing,ā and āLike they couldnāt think for their f***ing selves,ā it said in part.
The bioengineered meat bit is honestly hilarious to me, itās clear this guy has no relation to actual production. 3D printed meat is nowhere near viable for the scale of production that Campbells operates at- it canāt keep up with the sheer volume required and it is significantly more expensive than traditional meat production.
Dudeās just gone off the deep end with right-wing conspiracy theories, which makes sense given the whole racist tirade and hating the poor.
A tornado touched down years ago on a massive chicken farm in NC, near Durham. Hundreds of thousands of chickens were flung into the forests, impaled on branches.
Iām referring to the part about 3D printed meat that the previous commentor was referencing not the guyās overall tirade, his racism, or the fact that heās a piece of shit. I donāt believe as a VP he thinks thereās a factory floor somewhere full of 3D printers pumping meat into his product.
I donāt see the benefit in fabricating stories when there are so many factual reasons to discredit him over. The rest are just distractions.
Sorry but clearly youāve never met a high level executive because expecting them to think is already asking too much, never mind understanding anything about operation.
This is extremely par for the course, the executives Iāve met are some of the dumbest people Iāve ever seen in person, they just present well.
you mean they use bullshit business language designed to constantly move the goalposts of understandign so they can appear to be the smartest in the room. i.e Letās circle back on this after talking to stakeholders to determine what is actionable.
The craziest thing to me about this is that the employee (who was very smart to record this conversation) literally used official internal channels to report this. Rather than deal with it professionally, they fired him for being honest.
Well, I guess itās time to leak to the press, thenā¦
Also, from those remarks, it really seems like the VP hates his job. They shouldāve done him and the company a favor and fired him instead.
āWho buys our s**t? I donāt buy Campbellās products barely anymore. Itās not healthy now that I know what the f**ās in it.ā
Maybe, I dunno, make it more healthful?
(English pedant peeve: food is not āhealthyā or unhealthy; itās healthful or unhealthful. Living things are healthy, nutrients are healthful. A state of health versus a beneficial quality.)
Technically correct, but actual usage has made āhealthyā synonymous with āhealthfulā as well as far more commonly used. The distinction was pretty useless, anyway. A āwho/whomā situation.
Obligatory ātechnically correct, the best kind of correctā
Thatās how English works. Itās usage. I think the French have a council that decides but English moves a lot faster.
I get having a pet peeve. I for one hate that ignorant means uneducated when it should be someone who is willfully ignoring. Thatās just not the way it played out.
I love dictionaries and word usage. āHealthfulā is a clunky word, Iām not surprised we moved to āhealthy ā
Edit: I just realized āhelpfulā sounds just fine. But if someone said to me āthanks for being so helpy todayā I would be a full of seething hatred lol
āHealthyā has always been an actual word, while āhelpyā hasnāt, so no wonder itās grating!
Iām all for language changing when it makes sense. I canāt think of any situation where using āhealthyā instead of āhealthfulā obfuscates the meaning in any way. Same with āwhoā and āwhom.ā āWhomā and āhealthfulā could disappear and nothing of value would be lost. But when it comes to things like āliterallyā meaning āfiguratively,ā I mourn the loss of utility the word used to have.
Yes as long as what youāre saying makes sense thatās all that matters. Language is just the sound you make to communicate the idea in your head to someone else.
The opposite tho is names. Iām Michael. Not Mike. It doesnāt offended me to be called Mike but thatās not the sound your face needs to make to get my attention. Itās a different sound.
But for just talkingā¦ āI stop speak right but you can hold it, then whereās the rub?ā
I actually would play around by calling āmoneyā different things. See how weird I could get. āBucksā fine. Doodlyfranks? In context it works just fine. You can call money anything. Since fallout I regularly say āIām short on capsā no oneās ever questioned it.
Excellent example of how names work. Itās not about if Iām annoyed or not. If you want to get my attention you have to flap your meat together and blow air thru it this way (the meat people story if you havenāt heard that. Itās great)
I reply with classical works of the philosopher Monty python
āIs you wife a goer, know what I mean, I bet she does I bet she doesā
Language has always fascinated me. Clown too. Not party but the ones who donāt talk but communicate ideas thru body language and face make up. Yes the makeup serves a practical communicative purpose.
I only heard about it because of an article about them trying to find a French word for āe-mailā
Did that become of thing? Did it catch on?
Iām curious because in English once something has a ānameā it never changes. Hell Donald trump tried to rename the Gulf of Mexico. Iām in Texas, no one is changing the name. Itās the Gulf of Mexico.
Once something is established it doesnāt change.
Did they change email into something more French? Does that work like that?
Yeah, I honestly expected it to be worse. Yeah, the dude says Campbellās for poor people. Iām not poor, but Campbellās Chicken Noodle has always been a comfort food for when Iām sick. Putting it aside, it is supposed to be food for people on budgets, thatās the whole idea.
And then he goes on to say that their product is shit. I donāt necessarily think thatās a bad thing, if youāre saying it with the idea that maybe the product should get unucked, which I canāt tell from the limited passages and my near-midnight cognition.
The part about fucking Indians, obviously racist, but Iām also not sure what it means. Being from the US, it feels to me like Campbellās outsourced production or some service to India and is reaping what they sowed, so to speak, with decline in product quality?
Perhaps itās an awakening for Campbellās soup, and with a shithead VPās tirade comes a rebirth of cheap soup for the non-rich (which will be all of us soon enough).
I also think the canned goods market in general just isnāt what it was when it was first introduced. We had nonperishable goods in a can. Weāve replaced the need for the nonperishables with access to fresh foods (yes, I understand not for everyone), and canned goods have taken a hit. It doesnāt help that the price of anything in a can (looking at you seltzer) is straight up double what it used to be. I used to get four 12-packs of seltzer for 8.88. Now, three for 10 is the best deal there is. And thatās because you canāt really skimp and water down the quality of seltzer, because its about as basic as it gets, versus canned soups where you can apparently 3D print meat (paraphrasing) to save money.
What was said, from the article:
The bioengineered meat bit is honestly hilarious to me, itās clear this guy has no relation to actual production. 3D printed meat is nowhere near viable for the scale of production that Campbells operates at- it canāt keep up with the sheer volume required and it is significantly more expensive than traditional meat production.
Dudeās just gone off the deep end with right-wing conspiracy theories, which makes sense given the whole racist tirade and hating the poor.
Wait till these people learn about chicken nuggets.
A tornado touched down years ago on a massive chicken farm in NC, near Durham. Hundreds of thousands of chickens were flung into the forests, impaled on branches.
Campbells paid to clean it up.
We already had that idiotic āpink slimeā scare several years ago. No need to rehash that nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKwL5G5HbGA
That never fails to make me smile
Tell me more? A nugget of chicken, you sayā¦?
What part of the chicken is that? I had chicken fingers the other day. Had no idea they had fingers either.
Its sounds more like a tongue-in-cheek comment to me.
Yeah it was just comedy disguised as racismā¦
Iām referring to the part about 3D printed meat that the previous commentor was referencing not the guyās overall tirade, his racism, or the fact that heās a piece of shit. I donāt believe as a VP he thinks thereās a factory floor somewhere full of 3D printers pumping meat into his product.
I donāt see the benefit in fabricating stories when there are so many factual reasons to discredit him over. The rest are just distractions.
"I donāt believe as a VP he thinksā¦ "
Sorry but clearly youāve never met a high level executive because expecting them to think is already asking too much, never mind understanding anything about operation.
This is extremely par for the course, the executives Iāve met are some of the dumbest people Iāve ever seen in person, they just present well.
you mean they use bullshit business language designed to constantly move the goalposts of understandign so they can appear to be the smartest in the room. i.e Letās circle back on this after talking to stakeholders to determine what is actionable.
Or, ask them what they want.
The craziest thing to me about this is that the employee (who was very smart to record this conversation) literally used official internal channels to report this. Rather than deal with it professionally, they fired him for being honest.
Well, I guess itās time to leak to the press, thenā¦
Also, from those remarks, it really seems like the VP hates his job. They shouldāve done him and the company a favor and fired him instead.
Tales as old as men. Corpos arenāt your friends and the processes are there to placate employees and then fire them.
The companies Facebook is getting wrecked by the āMAHAā crowd, which is pretty hilarious. They are not happy about the bio-engineered meat.
Yeah, I bet those foreign influencers are really pissed.
Thatās so much worse than the title suggested.
Maybe, I dunno, make it more healthful?
(English pedant peeve: food is not āhealthyā or unhealthy; itās healthful or unhealthful. Living things are healthy, nutrients are healthful. A state of health versus a beneficial quality.)
Technically correct, but actual usage has made āhealthyā synonymous with āhealthfulā as well as far more commonly used. The distinction was pretty useless, anyway. A āwho/whomā situation.
Obligatory ātechnically correct, the best kind of correctā
Thatās how English works. Itās usage. I think the French have a council that decides but English moves a lot faster.
I get having a pet peeve. I for one hate that ignorant means uneducated when it should be someone who is willfully ignoring. Thatās just not the way it played out.
I love dictionaries and word usage. āHealthfulā is a clunky word, Iām not surprised we moved to āhealthy ā
Edit: I just realized āhelpfulā sounds just fine. But if someone said to me āthanks for being so helpy todayā I would be a full of seething hatred lol
āHealthyā has always been an actual word, while āhelpyā hasnāt, so no wonder itās grating!
Iām all for language changing when it makes sense. I canāt think of any situation where using āhealthyā instead of āhealthfulā obfuscates the meaning in any way. Same with āwhoā and āwhom.ā āWhomā and āhealthfulā could disappear and nothing of value would be lost. But when it comes to things like āliterallyā meaning āfiguratively,ā I mourn the loss of utility the word used to have.
Oh and it literally worries me when people use one word to mean the exact opposite. That isnāt advancement itās degradation.
And ten points to grifendor for the word āobfuscate ā itās one of my favorites.
Sorry for the tripple reply. This is one of the things I get excited about.
Omg I just realized my money concept also applies to sex.
āMy wife and I were slapping the banker last night, she got to keep the changeā
Knock knock
Whoās there
To
To who?
Itās to whom actually.
Yes as long as what youāre saying makes sense thatās all that matters. Language is just the sound you make to communicate the idea in your head to someone else.
The opposite tho is names. Iām Michael. Not Mike. It doesnāt offended me to be called Mike but thatās not the sound your face needs to make to get my attention. Itās a different sound.
But for just talkingā¦ āI stop speak right but you can hold it, then whereās the rub?ā
I actually would play around by calling āmoneyā different things. See how weird I could get. āBucksā fine. Doodlyfranks? In context it works just fine. You can call money anything. Since fallout I regularly say āIām short on capsā no oneās ever questioned it.
Excellent example of how names work. Itās not about if Iām annoyed or not. If you want to get my attention you have to flap your meat together and blow air thru it this way (the meat people story if you havenāt heard that. Itās great)
I reply with classical works of the philosopher Monty python
āIs you wife a goer, know what I mean, I bet she does I bet she doesā
Language has always fascinated me. Clown too. Not party but the ones who donāt talk but communicate ideas thru body language and face make up. Yes the makeup serves a practical communicative purpose.
French moves just as quickly. The AcadĆ©mie FranƧaise exists to make sure the French you learn in school doesnāt keep up.
I only heard about it because of an article about them trying to find a French word for āe-mailā
Did that become of thing? Did it catch on?
Iām curious because in English once something has a ānameā it never changes. Hell Donald trump tried to rename the Gulf of Mexico. Iām in Texas, no one is changing the name. Itās the Gulf of Mexico.
Once something is established it doesnāt change.
Did they change email into something more French? Does that work like that?
Nope. It very much did not catch on. We call a message received by email āun mailā and then to avoid overloading we have" le courier". Best, mark
Iām feeling very gasful today.
Have you tried taking a pill to make you ungasful?
Better option: donāt be poor.
Sounds like a lot of effort and nepotism
Yeah, I honestly expected it to be worse. Yeah, the dude says Campbellās for poor people. Iām not poor, but Campbellās Chicken Noodle has always been a comfort food for when Iām sick. Putting it aside, it is supposed to be food for people on budgets, thatās the whole idea.
And then he goes on to say that their product is shit. I donāt necessarily think thatās a bad thing, if youāre saying it with the idea that maybe the product should get unucked, which I canāt tell from the limited passages and my near-midnight cognition.
The part about fucking Indians, obviously racist, but Iām also not sure what it means. Being from the US, it feels to me like Campbellās outsourced production or some service to India and is reaping what they sowed, so to speak, with decline in product quality?
Perhaps itās an awakening for Campbellās soup, and with a shithead VPās tirade comes a rebirth of cheap soup for the non-rich (which will be all of us soon enough).
I also think the canned goods market in general just isnāt what it was when it was first introduced. We had nonperishable goods in a can. Weāve replaced the need for the nonperishables with access to fresh foods (yes, I understand not for everyone), and canned goods have taken a hit. It doesnāt help that the price of anything in a can (looking at you seltzer) is straight up double what it used to be. I used to get four 12-packs of seltzer for 8.88. Now, three for 10 is the best deal there is. And thatās because you canāt really skimp and water down the quality of seltzer, because its about as basic as it gets, versus canned soups where you can apparently 3D print meat (paraphrasing) to save money.