Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case
Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.
Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.
Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.
Free Luigi! Remember Remember the 4th of December. Jail the insurance CEO’s and Shareholders for mass murder!
A CEO gets killed - the law, the police, the government are all out in droves to find who done it.
Your relative, a friend, your child even gets killed - eh, chances are likely you could get a cold case or not the desired results you were hoping for when the sentencing comes around. Oh and those thoughts and prayers.
It cannot be anymore clear as day as to who is pocketing the authority to do their bidding. Try and tell me with a straight face that the justice system is in favor of the people.
To be fair, if a child dies…if it wasn’t in a car crash or a school or accidental shooting, it was probably because of people like this CEO.
Those car crashes and shootings are also result of policy put forward by people like this CEO.
Isn’t like the murder resolution rate in NYC around 50%? And that is in the areas that have more surveillance than anywhere else in America?
Even in Canada the murder resolution rate can hover around 60% in good places. (Toronto once had a resolution rate of 80% in a good year but that was an exception). Ultimately it really is the nature of the victim as to how fast a murder gets resolved.
It’s 75% in NYC 50% is probably state average.
Jesus. That’s insane to think about in modern times. With all the surveillance and data available, you’d think it’d be way higher, regardless of who the victim is. How depressing.
It’s almost like all the surveillance was never really about solving those crimes.
The slaying wasn’t that brutal
A clean, point blank shot to the head is just about as un-brutal as it gets, as far as non-consensual deaths go
A brutal slaying would be taking money from someone for years with the promise that if they get hurt, you will take care of them; and then when that occurs, you force them and their family through tons of beaurocracy before denying their help and consigning them to a slow death.
The editor should be fired for allowing such blatant bias to be published.
Consensual Death would be a good band name.
Do they take walk-ins?
you’re not wrong.
It was a suicide. The video was just AI
He had committed enough legal homicide; he was practically asking for it.
I mean did you see how he was dressed?
Mostly in blood, but I have the Wadsworth Constant extension installed. Did it skip something important?
Self defense. Actually self defense plus defending his fellows. I see no crime in this. Luigi is innocent!
How are the court hearings going for the cops that murder family members?
Whathhearings?
In the women’s restroom, Mangione’s supporters chatted among themselves about this proceeding.
Truely top-tier journalism
That looks bad…if you take it completely out of context
The author just added some levity while writing about his widespread support
[…] One, who sported a satiny sash emblazoned with Luigi in green, appeared to commiserate with another supporter about not being permitted to wear the prom-queen evoking accessory.
Other accoutrements were more straightforward. One supporter wore a shirt stating: “11 minutes of missing body camera footage.”
Cops were so thirsty for a conviction they completely broke the chain of custody on their “evidence”. The whole thing should be thrown out
Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city
Gtfo
Yeah, it was as brutal as any other shooting. Do cops shooting kids ever get described as “brutal”?
It’s not like he was beaten to death with a tire iron, or denied treatment and left to a slow and agonizing death that also leaves your family in ruins.
If you think about it, Luigi had far more compassion than the man he killed. Pretty quick and painless; compared to the outcomes of our healthcare system.
It was just a corrective market force.
Meanwhile our president bragged on the campaign trail that he could stand in the middle of a NYC street and shoot someone and not lose any voters. We have federal agents brutally slaying innocent people on streets across the country while being treated like heroes.
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody”
Didn’t Thompson get shot like a block away from 5th Ave?
Why are they bothering this Luigi guy?! There’s the asshole they need to be investigating!
This BRUTAL ASSASSINATION of a poor little innocent ceo who definitely didn’t profit on the corpses of thousands of people who were denied healthcare specifically because of his own intentional policies. This precious baby ceo was MORDERED in COLD BLOOD by this bloodthirsty
massmurderingimmigrantminoritywho hated him because FREEDOM and the BRAVE and BOLD decision of the ceo to allow poor people to be able to CHOOSE to die via paperworkas a weapon. Surely this ceo who’s name we can’t find for some reason is smiling down on his beloved healthcare industry from the heaven that definitely exists. We hope the ultra powerful and scarymassmurderer Luigi Mangione gets the JUSTICE the people of this country are clamoring for.You forgot to pull the husband and father card. 8/10, really gotta hammer that orphan angle home next time.
Unfortunately, nothing is known about the alleged victim of Luigi Mangione. It seems as though he may ironically be just as soon forgotten as his many thousands of victims denied the Healthcare they needed for the sake of some bloodsucking ‘shareholders’ making more money while contributing nothing of worth to society. He may or may not have been a father and husband, but he also may or may not have killed his own humanity by depriving thousands of others of their own fathers, mothers, children ,cousins, friends, etc. I’m not explicitly saying that he deserves to be forgotten, but I’m not sure I’d want to remember someone if they were anything like the later possibility. But what do I know? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
He tripped.
Mangione’s legal team has repeatedly pushed for the exclusion of evidence gathered during his arrest at an Altoona, Pennsylvania, McDonald’s restaurant on 9 December 2024. They have claimed that police, who came to the fast-food eatery based on an anonymous tip, did not immediately apprise Mangione of his constitutional rights.
Mangione’s lawyers have argued that because he was not apprised of his rights, his statements to police should not be permitted in court. They also argue that evidence taken during his arrest should be barred, saying they conducted a “warrantless search” of Mangione’s backpack.
This is the crux of the issue.
Ever since the start I’ve been saying he was a suspect and they were tracking him based off of illegally obtained evidence. The whole tip was BS. Some random person (most likely cop or fed) told a fast food worker there was a reward and to call it in, then just left.
They needed an excuse to say they found a suspect, because they found him illegally. It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.
But even if the call holds up, they fucked up all the evidence gathering.
I really think he’ll get off on a technicality and trump will try to jail him anyways keep the wealthy happy
It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.
The usual jargon is “parallel construction,” in case somebody wants to look it up.
The way I see this going is
Mangione wins his initial case on the issues you highlight.
Theres a big legal slapfight.
Ends up in front of the supreme court.
Trump makes a public statement about how dangerous people like Mangione need to be found guilty and executed.
Shortly after the statement, the Supreme Court abruptly declares Mangione guilty.
Trump holds a public execution within a month. Possibly profiting off it by selling tickets to his billionaire backers.
Can the Supreme Court overrule a jury? Doesn’t he have a right to a jury trial? Can Mangione be convicted if no jury is willing to do it?
Not that constitutional rights have ever stopped Trump.
If theres no one willing to follow the law, then nothing can be held accountable.
as you see with the trump admin. Does whatever it wants, with almost impunity, because they have corrupted the entire system to get rid of all checks and balances.
SCOTUS doesn’t (normally) rule on guilt, they rule on the legal questions raised in the appeal, and send cases back down to be finished.
(normally)
Doing a lot of heavy lifting there
cause SCOTUS has been so normal the past 10 months, amirite
also i think he missed the whole “Trump publicly says he needs to be guilty, and SCOTUS immediately declares guilty” aspect
Trump got dementia he isn’t going be able to say shit. But wish he would he tank the GOP for life. Lugi is popular even with Maga.
because they found him illegally
Remind me again on what illegal method(s) were suspected to be used?
I think GP is alleging that the feds used NSA spy shit to locate Mr. Mangione at the Pennsylvania McDonalds through his burner phone.
But… It is a violation of federal law to spy on an American like that. So the feds have not admitted to that. Instead, they manufactured an anonymous tip, based on legally obtained surveillance video from New York, in order to have a legal reasonable suspicion to question Mr. Mangione.
And then the local cops who responded fucked it up anyway by blocking his path of retreat, which is a functional arrest, and then not Mirandizing. And they also searched the backpack before they had any probable cause to do so, and after they had removed it safely away from Mr. Mangione. Without PC, the cops may search the backpack or Mangione for weapons only (the infamous stop and frisk), but they cannot search the backpack insides if they have removed it away from Mangione. The backpack is no longer a threat at that point
IANAL but AFAIK without PC, they can only pat down his person (for officer safety) similar to what TSA does at the airport, but not reach into his pockets or backpack as that’s considered a search. It’s a subtle but important difference.
NYC is covered with cell snoopers…
Very very accurate snoopers, if he had a cell phone they’d have done that quickly without a warrant. And once they had his number from that, they could track him anywhere.
It’s also one of the highest camera densities in the world, if there wasn’t a phone then they likely tapped into every camera and ran facial recognition, again without a warrant.
But that’s just the stuff we know about. A CEO was shot on the street, that’s too close for the oligarchs so I wouldn’t be surprised if they got the government to use the top secret shit that’s supposed to just be for terrorists. Stuff we couldn’t even think of, but might hear about a decade from now once it’s no longer state of the art.
Jail? The orange turd has been pushing for execution since day 1 of the case.
It’s some “eye in the sky” tech the government doesn’t want us to know they have yet. This is based purely on vibes.
My man is innocent. Was not even there.
Doesn’t look remotely like the guy in that original mugshot they were flashing around.
Right? This has bothered me from the beginning. He’s not the guy in the footage who shoots Thompson, and it’s obvious. But they need someone to take the fall as an example, to protect the rich.
Luigi was with me the whole time.
You’re a liar.
He was balls deep in my wife at the time this supposed murder took place.
Sounds like ThePyroPython is your wife
🤫
Confirmed. I saw you watching them bone down while I was peeking through the window. Looked pretty fun, not gonna lie.
Nice house btw, and hot wife. You should be proud.
Lucky woman.
You lucky bastard
Luigi is actually Sam Reich.
“I’ve been here the whole time.”
Now that’s a loop-de-loop!
He was eating dinner with me in Estonia the evening that CEO died. He only flew back to the US after that.
Man’s innocent! The prosecutions got nothing on him, this is hardly the first time they’ve got it wrong and ruined someone’s life: LA Olympic bombing, Unabomber, anthrax postal attacks, to name a few…
Luigi is just another in a long list of scapegoats.He’s so hot, OMG
The only crime here is that he is not my husband
Can someone help me understand? It honestly sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality which to me is fine. I’ve had so many loved ones kicked off health care during terminal diseases and I despise for-profit model of the industry.
But it really seems like he did it, yet I see so many people questioning that. I’m just curious why that is.
sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality
This is a suppression motion for unlawful search and seizure. To call this man’s 4th amendment rights a “technicality” is some Law and Order copaganda bullshit.
These suppression motions are already very difficult to win. Mr. Mangione will have to show not only that his rights were violated, but also that the cops would not have found the evidence through a different, legal means. So if he does win, it will not be “on a technicality.” It’s just the system ensuring that everyone’s constitutional rights are respected.
Basically it’s people saying:
Prove it
Because the government cant/won’t say how they are so sure it’s him
Couple that with how the wealthy never face consequences in our justice system due to their ability to pay money to lawyers.
And the fact that people want this to be decided by the letter of the law isn’t extreme by any means, it’s literally the point of law. And why people are (rightfully) outraged that they’re trying to include terrorism charges.
It’s just the cops fucked up so much, they’re not going to be able to legally prove anything.
It’s OJ all over again
Difference is OJ murdered his ex wife he regularly physically abused and her lover.
Luigi wasn’t there to begin with. He was chilling at some other dude’s house the whole time.
People are questioning it because the initial CCTV pictures of the murderer do not match Mangione’s features. They look similar enough for it to be pulled in as evidence - and further supported by the items confiscated from him during his arrest, but then again people are questioning the legitimacy of those things too - but the differences are visible enough for even a mid tier lawyer to argue that the CCTV recording is not of their client.
He is just a fall guy because they were determined to punish someone for the crime of daring to fight back against the ruling class. Just the claim that he was found with the murder weapon and a manifesto proving motive is enough to conclude that.
Even the most insane of murderers don’t carry around everything needed for conviction while out for lunch days later.
In addition to some alleged incongruity of the evidence, I think a lot of people actually think he did it but they want him to get away with it/don’t think what he did was wrong, and throwing mud in the water is a way to show support for him, albeit a somewhat disingenuous one.
He didn’t do it because I did.
Looks like I’m going to get away with it, too ;)
Part of it is that people are idiots and think if they keep saying “He didn’t do it, wink wink” it will mean anything (other than internet points (on a site that doesn’t track them…)).
Personally? I… don’t know if the world is a better place with Luigi Mangione out on the streets (seriously… actually read up on him) but I also have zero qualms with someone not being punished for offing a monster.
But that isn’t what is going to happen here. Some of the evidence will likely get thrown out. But there is also a LOT more evidence that we, the public, don’t know about. For example, you can very much bet that a MUCH more rigorous timeline, supported by Flock™ camera footage, of him in NYC has been documented. That combined with the actual footage of him (allegedly) doing it and the witnesses like the taxi driver (?) and hotel clerk?
He will probably escape some of the charges. He will not be walking free. And… he’ll probably get suicide’d in his cell within a year of being made an example of why you don’t kill the oligarchs.
Luigi Mangione fixed most of the bugs in Civ 6 regarding the UI.
I… don’t know if the world is a better place with Luigi Mangione out on the streets (seriously… actually read up on him)
Can you elaborate? I did read some when all this started and didn’t come across anything too bad.
A LOT of his social media included very weird views on human sexuality (e.g. sex toy bans) and outright praise for the unabomber. I’ve also seen a lot of claims that he espoused “anti-woke” ideologies but most of the sources I am finding are sketchy as hell. Although the LA Times article at least links to what I think is his twitter (that I personally can’t verify as I don’t have twitter)
A LOT of people want to view him as some champion of leftism. And… it is well worth remembering that a leftist political ideology does not mean much regarding views on social justice (as many people of color and trans folk can attest…). But the reality is that he probably is a lot closer to the “groyper” who shot kirk than anything else. Just another kid who got radicalized in deeply confusing and contradictory ways. And while I am not going to lose too much sleep over the outcome of HIS actions… I am increasingly terrified of how many batshit insane radicals with guns are out there whose ideology can be summed up as “4chan”.
This guy had to of known he was never getting out of prison and was likely to get a death sentence. Does it look like he gives a fuck? Sure he’ll try to win his case but this guy is prepared for the worst
I mean, he clearly wasn’t the shooter since he looks nothing like the guy from the video and the cops clearly planted evidence on him.
