• CubitOom@infosec.pub
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    8 hours ago

    No whey.

    But, have you ever considered how much protein your body should have in a meal? Eating too much protein can also be malnutrition. To your point it’s better to have too much protein than too much fat. However if it tastes like it’s full of corn syrup, it probably still is. Or some “healthy” artificial sweetener which your body thinks is the same yet is still empty carbohydrates.

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      8 hours ago

      Eating too much protein can also be malnutrition.

      yeah, I better get back to (over) eating the even worse shit.

      When people start eating like this, it’s almost always better than what they were eating before, and if you are doing hard exercise and desperately trying to recover from muscle pains due to exercising, and restricting calories, you need a lot of protein.

      Remember, you need protein to recover AND to avoid losses from calorie restrictions.

      https://tdeemacros.com/

      Do the math on trying to achieve that much protein intake when you’re restricting to that few calories and what you can and can’t eat within a day with regular meals.

      Now think about when you have cravings to eating the junk food you used to eat.

      no shit people want to eat the protein bars. leave them the fuck alone, they’re fighting internal demons.

      Or some “healthy” artificial sweetener which your body thinks is the same yet is still empty carbohydrates.

      … I don’t even know where to go with this. Artificial sweeteners are basically calorie free, so they aren’t “empty carbohydrates” they’re basically the equivalent of oregano or cumin for sweetness. Most of them are made from plants that aren’t sugarcane, and would taste horrible if they were not diluted and processed.

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        4 hours ago

        I think the jury is still out on artificial sweeteners.

        I think anyone that thinks eating something that tastes like a candy bar can be healthy is lying to themselves. I also think there are issues introduced when you are absorbing refined highly processed nutrients. Issues that might seem unrelated but can affect your health more long term.

        Your body isn’t just a machine that you can add the correct mixture of things to for proper maintenance. It’s a messy biological system that is dependent on evolutionary history, and there’s a lot of unknowns that have yet to be studied at all.

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          8 hours ago

          oh you know what, you’re right. I should go back to eating healthy refined sugar in chocolate bars, and wash it down with fried chicken instead.

          You don’t understand anything about weight loss or why people are obese in the first place. Even if you’re correct (which, there isn’t complete , substantial evidence for), the sweeteners are there to replace worse behaviour that does have concrete , substantial evidence of massive harm.

          “healthy” is an incredibly loaded term , especially when you’re talking about things that have artificial sweeteners. What’s the rest of the foodstuff made of? what would be eaten instead? how much is eaten? why? etc etc.

          be straight up with me. what’s your weight? have you struggled with weight loss in the past? what do you eat? Because you’re very judgemental and toxic in a topic that over 30% of the human population struggle with.

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            4 hours ago

            I’m not sure where you think I’m saying you should eat candy bars. You’re projecting someone else’s opinion on my comment. I didn’t say those things.

            Firstly, there’s not a single reason that people are obese. And secondly being at a goal weight doesn’t mean that you are either healthy or fit.

            If one is to substitute known unhealthy things for possibly harmful things instead of improving their life in general, that’s like giving up cigarettes for vaping in my opinion. Artificial sweeteners could be causing massive harm in ways that are less obvious and harder to pin on diet, but for me, I don’t eat them because they taste terrible. I’d rather not eat sweets as often and have treats made from less refined, more natural ingredients than to eat things with artificial sweeteners and protein packed in for the sake of marketing.

            Your accusations of me being judgemental and toxic are interesting, but I’m not going to take the bait. I don’t owe you an explanation of my nuanced opinion outside of the few reasons I’ve already listed.