Would you like to guess how many recently graduated dctors also believed in the same childish rhetoric? A worrying amount. Like genuinely made me worried that low level propaganda gets through better than basic medical facts which doctors of all specialisations should understand.
It’s line claiming heroin doesn’t cause dependence. That Oxycontin doesn’t cause addiction.
You know that pharmacompanies have strongly pushed both of this. Yet you won’t question literally half the population having a neurodevelopmental disorder, because YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT HAVING ONE MEANS.
The percentage of increased diagnosis through increased information is the same for every other neurodevelopmental disorder except attention disorders. Those have supposedly grown quadruple the amount that any other neurodevelopmental disorder has in the same time. (That is, in roughly the past 100 years to account for enough change.)
Anyone who’s having a hard time understanding that attention disorders are overdiagnosed is a gullible moron. That includes all the doctors who argued I have it. Despite me showing I was alway literally the best in my class, without any disturbances, nor problems, not any I subjectively experienced or that the teacher would’ve noted. I also went through roughly 10 different schools, and has a large sampling of teachers and classes.
Never heard anything about any attention disorders before the age of 25, a bit more than a decade ago, when all this bullshit pushing began.
To not be able to see when someone is pushing drugs on you for no reason is gullibility to the max.
Its ludicrous.
Oh and yeah, the past few years young doctors haven’t pushed the adhd rhetoric on me. Had to waste an entirely afternoon proving I don’t have it with clinical psychologists and my mom there to verify what I’m saying.
But you know it’s overdiagnosed, but as long as society accepts it as your meds and not something you just crave, youre gucci, right?
Wow, what an insightful argument that totally proves me wrong.
I’m not here to convince anyone. I’m just pointing out very simple facts. It’s not your choice if you believe it or not. You’ll still know it.
I’m not against adults using methylphenidate if they feel a benefit from it.
But don’t try to have your cake and eat it too. You’re taking the meds because you’re addicted, not because you need them. If you actually have a disorder and need them, then thats different. But most of the people taking them don’t.
Facts are facts no matter what you feel about them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
If you’ve made one thing absolutely clear it’s that a reasonable argument won’t change your mind, I very much doubt anything would, you didn’t come to this opinion using logic nor being rational, neither of those are useful tools in this situation, you’re a no win scenario, there is no reason to try to communicate. I’ve got a sister like you, I’ve learned how it works. No, I just enjoy watching crazy people talk crazy and poking the bear when I have the option of tuning out and blocking them when I’m bored with it. It’s something meaningful you have to offer.
If you’ve made one thing absolutely clear it’s that a reasonable argument won’t change your mind
You haven’t even tried unreasonable arguments, my man. So no, that high-roading doesn’t work.
How about you try to address any of the arguments I’ve made.
Unless you’re just a pathetic speedjunkie?
I know drugs and abuse and neurodivergence more than you, I’ll bet my left testicle on it. So why is it that you don’t believe in the documented deep corruption of the pharmaceutical industry, nor can you address why attention disorders have grown more than 350% more than ANY other neurodevelopmental disorder?
You love shotgunning out those assumptions, huh? Absolutely no doubt that you’re right about everything that spills out of your stupid fucking mouth, that kind of confidence is enviable, even if all you’re using for is a loudspeaker to let is all know how dumb and crazy you are.
Just for kicks, have you considered that there are people who deal with the realities of ADHD without any prescriptions or drugs or interest in drug treatment for the symptoms? Do you think that, maybe, ADHD exists outside of any sort of pharmaceutical influence or considerations? Or are you just saying there’s absolutely no such thing as ADHD and nobody actually deals with it as part of their every day lives?
“But won’t you please have empathy for the undiagnosed!!!”
I have empathy for anyone whos suffering from bad practices in medicine. Like being diagnosed as having a neurodevelopmental disorder without any reason.
Just for kicks, have you considered that doctors are actually people? People who live in the same shitty ad-filled capitalist shitfuckery we do? Or are you saying that having an MD makes you infallible and perfect? (oh look, I can ask irrational bullshit as well)
Where have even remotely implied I don’t believe in attention disorders? Saying something is OVERDIAGNOSED is NOT synonymous with saying something is “completely fictional”, is it?
We get it, big pharma sucks, that’s not a surprise for anyone, we all know, but maybe read the room. There is a time and a place and right here and right now you’re just very much coming off as an unhinged fucking lunatic who is saying that ADHD doesn’t exist because, point blank, you are doing a fuck awful idiot ass job at trying to make your point if your point is anything other than ADHD doesn’t exist and everyone other than you is stupid.
Honestly, other than being told to fuck off, what was the response you were expecting by coming in and being an aggressive piece of shit? It really seems like you’re just mad and want attention and decided this was where you hoped to find it, because you aren’t making anything close to a coherent point.
“how dare you say something the majority don’t agree we with!”
Yeah wow, how dare i.
I’m saying easily verifiable shit, and having a bunch of kids jump at me saying how nasty I must be. I’m sorry, but your feelings really don’t change science.
First off, there’s a lot more attention disorders than just ADHD. Secondly, all of them are neurodevelopmental dosorders. You can you ahead and check the definition of the term. ;>
7/10 people with the diagnosis are just victims of bad medicine
Out of those 7, ~5 are addicts who wouldn’t give up their stims even if they heard that from someone wearing a white coat.
Hey, if you feel the side-effects and addiction are worth it, go for it. I’m not saying you can’t. What I am saying is that if you’re shooting up heroine, it’s worthless to cry about how you have a boo-boo and just have to shoot up every day.
Tell me honestly, since reading my comment, have you tried verifying any knowledge in it? Because I left it out on purpose. Because I know you wouldn’t open it even if I had added a source. And you definitely haven’t read any science on this whole subject.
You just know you won’t give up daily stimulant usage, no matter what.
Would you like to guess how many recently graduated dctors also believed in the same childish rhetoric? A worrying amount. Like genuinely made me worried that low level propaganda gets through better than basic medical facts which doctors of all specialisations should understand.
It’s line claiming heroin doesn’t cause dependence. That Oxycontin doesn’t cause addiction.
You know that pharmacompanies have strongly pushed both of this. Yet you won’t question literally half the population having a neurodevelopmental disorder, because YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT HAVING ONE MEANS.
The percentage of increased diagnosis through increased information is the same for every other neurodevelopmental disorder except attention disorders. Those have supposedly grown quadruple the amount that any other neurodevelopmental disorder has in the same time. (That is, in roughly the past 100 years to account for enough change.)
Anyone who’s having a hard time understanding that attention disorders are overdiagnosed is a gullible moron. That includes all the doctors who argued I have it. Despite me showing I was alway literally the best in my class, without any disturbances, nor problems, not any I subjectively experienced or that the teacher would’ve noted. I also went through roughly 10 different schools, and has a large sampling of teachers and classes.
Never heard anything about any attention disorders before the age of 25, a bit more than a decade ago, when all this bullshit pushing began.
To not be able to see when someone is pushing drugs on you for no reason is gullibility to the max.
Its ludicrous.
Oh and yeah, the past few years young doctors haven’t pushed the adhd rhetoric on me. Had to waste an entirely afternoon proving I don’t have it with clinical psychologists and my mom there to verify what I’m saying.
But you know it’s overdiagnosed, but as long as society accepts it as your meds and not something you just crave, youre gucci, right?
Roflmao
This is good stuff, keep going, I love it. Tell us more.
Wow, what an insightful argument that totally proves me wrong.
I’m not here to convince anyone. I’m just pointing out very simple facts. It’s not your choice if you believe it or not. You’ll still know it.
I’m not against adults using methylphenidate if they feel a benefit from it.
But don’t try to have your cake and eat it too. You’re taking the meds because you’re addicted, not because you need them. If you actually have a disorder and need them, then thats different. But most of the people taking them don’t.
Facts are facts no matter what you feel about them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
If you’ve made one thing absolutely clear it’s that a reasonable argument won’t change your mind, I very much doubt anything would, you didn’t come to this opinion using logic nor being rational, neither of those are useful tools in this situation, you’re a no win scenario, there is no reason to try to communicate. I’ve got a sister like you, I’ve learned how it works. No, I just enjoy watching crazy people talk crazy and poking the bear when I have the option of tuning out and blocking them when I’m bored with it. It’s something meaningful you have to offer.
You haven’t even tried unreasonable arguments, my man. So no, that high-roading doesn’t work.
How about you try to address any of the arguments I’ve made.
Unless you’re just a pathetic speedjunkie?
I know drugs and abuse and neurodivergence more than you, I’ll bet my left testicle on it. So why is it that you don’t believe in the documented deep corruption of the pharmaceutical industry, nor can you address why attention disorders have grown more than 350% more than ANY other neurodevelopmental disorder?
Face it. You’re just a junkie.
You love shotgunning out those assumptions, huh? Absolutely no doubt that you’re right about everything that spills out of your stupid fucking mouth, that kind of confidence is enviable, even if all you’re using for is a loudspeaker to let is all know how dumb and crazy you are.
Just for kicks, have you considered that there are people who deal with the realities of ADHD without any prescriptions or drugs or interest in drug treatment for the symptoms? Do you think that, maybe, ADHD exists outside of any sort of pharmaceutical influence or considerations? Or are you just saying there’s absolutely no such thing as ADHD and nobody actually deals with it as part of their every day lives?
“But won’t you please have empathy for the undiagnosed!!!”
I have empathy for anyone whos suffering from bad practices in medicine. Like being diagnosed as having a neurodevelopmental disorder without any reason.
Just for kicks, have you considered that doctors are actually people? People who live in the same shitty ad-filled capitalist shitfuckery we do? Or are you saying that having an MD makes you infallible and perfect? (oh look, I can ask irrational bullshit as well)
Where have even remotely implied I don’t believe in attention disorders? Saying something is OVERDIAGNOSED is NOT synonymous with saying something is “completely fictional”, is it?
We get it, big pharma sucks, that’s not a surprise for anyone, we all know, but maybe read the room. There is a time and a place and right here and right now you’re just very much coming off as an unhinged fucking lunatic who is saying that ADHD doesn’t exist because, point blank, you are doing a fuck awful idiot ass job at trying to make your point if your point is anything other than ADHD doesn’t exist and everyone other than you is stupid.
Honestly, other than being told to fuck off, what was the response you were expecting by coming in and being an aggressive piece of shit? It really seems like you’re just mad and want attention and decided this was where you hoped to find it, because you aren’t making anything close to a coherent point.
Shut up, fuck off, grow up.
“Maybe read the room”
“how dare you say something the majority don’t agree we with!”
Yeah wow, how dare i.
I’m saying easily verifiable shit, and having a bunch of kids jump at me saying how nasty I must be. I’m sorry, but your feelings really don’t change science.
First off, there’s a lot more attention disorders than just ADHD. Secondly, all of them are neurodevelopmental dosorders. You can you ahead and check the definition of the term. ;>
7/10 people with the diagnosis are just victims of bad medicine
Out of those 7, ~5 are addicts who wouldn’t give up their stims even if they heard that from someone wearing a white coat.
Hey, if you feel the side-effects and addiction are worth it, go for it. I’m not saying you can’t. What I am saying is that if you’re shooting up heroine, it’s worthless to cry about how you have a boo-boo and just have to shoot up every day.
The irony of saying “Facts are facts” when yours come straight out of your ass and are based entirely on how you feel.
Fact: You have nothing to back up what you’re spouting.
The increase in attention disorders is more than 350% more than any other neurodevelopmental disorder.
You’re literally pretending like corruption doesn’t exist. Childish beyond reason.
What a cool percentage that you, again, pulled straight out of your fucking ass.
Based on… you not liking it?
Tell me honestly, since reading my comment, have you tried verifying any knowledge in it? Because I left it out on purpose. Because I know you wouldn’t open it even if I had added a source. And you definitely haven’t read any science on this whole subject.
You just know you won’t give up daily stimulant usage, no matter what.
Lol, lmao even.
Wow what an insightful argument, mr crackhead.
You don’t have any sources and that is one garbage ass excuse. “If I provided proof you wouldn’t read it, so you’re an idiot and I’m right!”
Fuck, you’re stupid.
You still haven’t a single argument nor have you argued against anything I’ve said.
You’re just having a “NUH-UH, I DON’T LIKE THAT” - tantrum.
Have you ever even googled the subject?
No. You haven’t. You don’t even understand the basic terminology.