cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43334510
The Department of Justice spoke four separate times to a woman who credibly accused Donald Trump of having sex with a minor he met through Jeffrey Epstein—but most accusations against the president appear to have been removed from the government’s documents on the alleged sex trafficker.
A 21-page slideshow buried in the massive trove of Epstein-related documents included allegations that sometime between 1983 and 1985, Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens. When the woman bit down on Trump’s exposed penis, he allegedly punched her in the head and kicked her out. That same woman told the DOJ that Epstein had introduced her to Trump in 1984.
Yet last week, Attorney General Pam Bondi insisted that there was “no evidence” that Trump had committed any crime—adding to the growing pile of denials from Trump officials that constitute a sweeping cover-up of the president’s alleged wrongdoing.
Justice Department records indicate that the FBI spoke to this woman not once but at least four separate times, according to independent journalist Roger Sollenberger. Now those records appear to have been removed from public viewing—despite the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which requires all documents relating to the alleged sex trafficker to be made public.
Sollenberger discovered a record of four separate interviews, which took place in the summer of 2019, in a separate database of documents downloaded from the government’s public files on Epstein. That document indicated that the first of the four interviews was conducted on July 24, 2019, and the last conducted on October 16, 2019. That document was given to Ghislaine Maxwell’s lawyers as part of her trial, though the specific allegations predated Maxwell’s involvement with Epstein, Sollenberger wrote.
The woman’s first interview was entered into the FBI’s case files on August 9, 2019, just one day before Epstein was found dead in his jail cell. FBI agents typically have a deadline of five working days to file interview write-ups, indicating an abnormal 16-day gap, Sollenberger noted.
Is there anyone from this administration that doesn’t deserve to end up mulched and chummed?
Stephen Miller. He needs to be gassed and burned.
I’d prefer something a little more publicly displayed than that.
I’m thinking being put inside a giant metal bull while we light a fire underneath it. Most deaths are too good for him.
Welcome to fascism. Just couldn’t vote for Harris? You did this.
Really tired of you pathetic embarassed republicans blaming leftists for the election loss. Leftists overwhelmingly voted for Harris. Your “centrists” hated her.
I voted for Harris but you have to be very bad at your job to loose that election.
I too prefer the puppet on the left.
left
LoL
Overton trapdoor
The capitalist class did this to us. Blame the people who allowed fascism to rise…which absolutely includes Biden and Harris!
The people still voted for trump in greater numbers than Harris. No ifs or buts about that fact. It is the people’s responsibility to stay educated and to actually go vote. It’s been shown that nations with compulsory voting gain more support for the left. Yes, there is a problem with the Epstein class and capitalism, but that doesn’t absolve non-voters and those who voted for fascism from blame.
It is the people’s responsibility to stay educated
It is the media’s responsibility to be unbiased and not run propaganda. And yet, Fox News exists.
It is a systemic issue, not a personal one. You can not educate the person who feels they know everything. Someone does not feel like they know everything unless they have that affirmed to them daily. Fox News pushes this shit, daily.
Bro the people that didn’t vote for harris ain’t here. Not enough of them to realistically blame, anyway.
But how else do people like this feel superior without having an under class to constantly shit on? By the merit of their own achievements? Hah!
Trump should never have been on the ticket.
Are we just going to ignore that the DOJ had all of these documents while Biden was president and just twiddled their thumbs apparently?
Like they released the JFK files after JFK was killed? Or how they arrested arrested Reagan for illegally selling arms to Iran to fund death squads in the americas? Idk man there’s a long history of presidents just sitting on this kind of shit and Biden is not exactly brave.
I don’t really disagree. My point is more that if Biden or his AG had actually pursued this with the degree of seriousness it deserves, Trump would likely not be president. People need better options than to vote for a pedophile rapist or someone who let pedophile rapists go free.
I would go on a step further and say, we should remember some norms suck and we should be asking candidates if they will prosecute previous administrations and what for.
Like the norm of not prosecuting presidents is possibly the most destructive and vile norm and has lead exclusively to terrible outcomes, from the contras, to jan 6th, to the Iraq war, to epstein secrecy.
President’s used to let the justice department carry out justice as it saw fit. Now it’s a legal apparatus for the president to weaponize.
Always has been.
What are you talking about? Presidents have directed the DOJ to look into specific crimes and even have created special investigatory tasks forces all the time. Obama did exactly that after 2008 in order to investigate financial fraud. Don’t you think that a child sex trafficking ring involving some of the US’s most rich and powerful people, including former presidents, deserves to be prioritized in the same way?
At the very least Biden is responsible for appointing Merrick Garland of all people. Remember this was after Epstein’s apparent “suicide”.
That’s a pretty strong claim.
But Harris didn’t say she was going to solve all the world’s problems immediately! She wanted to personally murder every single Palestinian person. Or something.
She had a funny laugh.
But realistically she had a vagina and voters aren’t super fond of that. If she’d have been a man, she’d have won. I’ll get downvoted and accused of being misogynist but it’s voters who are, especially women.
And now she’s running again and god help us if the party makes the same mistake in 2028, if we have real elections.
Yea, your take is absolutely not realistic in the slightest.
She lost because she was a genocide enabling, corporatist pig who tried to demand votes from people that she refused to represent the interests of.
Her being a woman had nothing to do with why she lost. The only people who gave a shit about that were Republicans and they were never going to flip sides to begin with regardless of how much the Democrats try to capitulate to them.
She lost because she was a genocide enabling, corporatist pig who tried to demand votes from people that she refused to represent the interests of.
Because Trump was certainly none of those things. He totally represented working class people, immigrants, and world peace. There is obviously nothing that Trump has done past and present that would suggest otherwise.
The only difference between him and Kamala is… What again? Sorry, I’m having a hard time finding anything different between the two of them other than their genitals.
She 100% lost because she is a woman. People would rather vote for their own economic demise and livelihood rather than vote for a woman. Don’t give Americans too much credit, the majority of them can’t even fucking read.
Hillary won the 2016 popular vote but yeah Kamala lost because she was a woman and not because people want radical change. Its definitely the Vulva, not the fact she was promising to be Joe Biden 2.0 at a time where most Americans were feeling Biden was failing them due to how shitty their bank accounts were.
Trump marketed that he would fix the economy. He didn’t and rug pulled. Kamala did not even bother to say radical change was coming.
Congrats on missing the entire point. Is the ignorance intentional? Or are you just this bad at piecing things together?
I just told you the difference, not my fault you don’t have reading comprehension.
America still hates women too much for that.
Yes, because she was a woman, not because she was a genocide enabling, corporatist pig who did not align with the interests of the people she tried to demand a vote from.
I would agree with you that was why except that the guy who won is also that.
I mean, sure if you want to be incredibly simple minded about it and ignore all the context around the two platforms.
But, then again, neoliberals enable fascists so I guess I get it’s hard to tell the two apart for those who don’t know the nuances.
So the FBI had an interview about the then president sexually assaulting/raping a child and them punching her in the face when it didn’t go his way. The interview evidence gets mishandled and instead of taking 5 business days required to file it took 12 business days. The next day the person who connected the President to these charges is found dead. With his brother requesting a secondary otopsy because he believed his brother was murdered, and the review showed they did not believe the death to be suicide. And the footage mysteriously having issues as well. And the people who moved the body had no recollection of removing a noose.
This is nothing but a conspiracy, lol
I’m convinced that kiddiefucker is alive and well
Why? Killing him is cheaper and easier.
A head on a pike tells no secrets.
Dead man switch?
So Jeffrey Epstein is pretty much just another partner or employee Trump threw under the bus. And I’m beginning to think it’s more the *latter.
100%
Epstein got an unheard of sweetheart deal the first time he was charged, by then Florida AG Alex Acosta.
Alex Acosta would then go on to be rewarded with a major cabinet position in Trump’s first term. Labor Secretary. Something he had no real experience with.
Epstein got off very easy so he wouldn’t be compelled to talk, and Acosta was rewarded for facilitating it.
Years later, during Trump’s first term, his Attorney General Bill Barr would go on to facilitate the murder of Epstein while in prison.
It’s all just a massive criminal enterprise. They aren’t even bothering to hide it anymore.
Who wrote this shit, “…Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens…” so a teenager or child and not a woman then?
Depressingly common. “Had sex with an underage woman”. So, raped a child
Always the same language. Same deal with underaged black versus white kids. One is called a young man, the other a kid. Guess who is who.
US media keeps calling the children in the Epstein files women for some reason. It’s been an ongoing theme. German speaking media will occasionally use the German word for minor, but they often also just lazily translate from US sources and use the German word for women/woman.
It’s called sane washing. The US media is owned by people who are likely in the files too.
We need to have a simple check in the government and media. Everyone who thinks a 13 year old is a woman please stand on this side of the room. Everyone else please leave the room. Then we drone strike the room with the earthquake bomb.
The 13 year ol side of the room opens up into a pungee pit and they all fall inside and have to slowly bleed out.
Into a gaint woodchipper running at 1/4th the speed?
Actually ome of those metal shredders works better.
Feet first of course
I used to run the wood chipper in an old saw mill in Ontario. It would take an 8’ log 15" in diameter and chip it before you could say one-one thou …
Yes. The allegation should be phrased that he beat and raped a child.
She’s a woman now, and was when the interviews occurred over 30 years after the sexual assaults.
The woman was sexually assaulted when she was in her early teens.
Loterally says “Forced a woman”
As opposed to “forced a a teenager to have oral sex with him when washed was 30 years younger?”
It literally specifies that she was a teenager when the crime occurred in the same sentence you’re criticizing.
You’re right, those are literally the only two ways that sentence could be written.
I think the intended meaning is that she was a woman when the allegations were made but the (alleged) events took place when she was in her early teens.
I know we’re all programmed to give people the benefit of the doubt. To try to find sense in any situation. To use Hanlon’s razor.
When it comes to Trump, please stop. He doesn’t deserve this excess of leniency. He’s a child rapist and murderer running the country. Do not try to find sense when there is nothing but cruelty and abuse. It makes a lot more sense when confronted by evidence of cruelty and malice at such a staggering scale to use a reverse Hanlon’s razor with Trump.
They’re called women to purposefully obfuscate the fact Trump beat and raped a little girl. One of many.
I certainly wouldn’t give trump the benefit of the doubt, but that’s not what you’re talking about. You’re saying we mustn’t give the people writing these reports the benefit of the doubt. I’d guess you’d also say we shouldn’t give any republican supporters the benefit of the doubt (they might well echo the reporting after all), so that really it rapidly becomes only giving those the benefit of the doubt who are on your side.
When it comes to stories about Trump, any evidence that he’s being portrayed as anything but a child raping felon implies that the story is purposefully biased to help him.
No reasonable person would hold a differing opinion.
Now whether I give those same people the benefit of the doubt concerning non-Trump matters is a different story.
Reverse Hanlon’s razor applies to Trump and has a transferable property regarding anything related to Trump to at least 1-2 connections.
Well, you can think what you like but you’re going to draw wrong, unhelpful conclusions more often with that attitude. 🤷
More evidence tampering
mOsT tRanSpaReNt PreSiDeNt EvEr
Despite his efforts it’s looking pretty transparent that he raped children.
tbf, establishment dems/R’s have kept this shit under wraps much more tightly for…decades, obviously. with zero intention of ever holding anyone accountable
unironically the most transparent president/administration ever, because he’s too unawares/dementiad to even remotely control his projections and the jackals he’s got running the place are so proud in their corruption they carry it out openly
So it’s “transparency through incompetence”, the corrolary to “security through obscurity”
I don’t even know what to say about how ham-fisted and just plain dumb this attempt to rewrite history is. What’s depressing is that for far too many people, it’ll still work.
If we make it through this, history textbooks are going to need to have chapters on what cult-think does to people, and like half of it will be about MAGA.
You mean like Hitler and Germany?
We already have history textbooks about this… there’s even a pretty popular book that is a great allegory for what’s going on. Based sometime in the 1980s I believe.
Sadly too many idiots in America do no read.
The internet has given us a nice archive of the thoughts of brainwashing victims that didn’t exist in Nazi Germany.
Personally I think Brave New World is a better representation of our dystopia than 1984. People aren’t trying to avoid thoughtcrime because they’re afraid of a boot to the neck (yet) but are instead lulled into complacency by a “keep your head down” culture and lulled into complicity by a “choose your own truth” media landscape.
Yep. You only have to believe things that you want to believe because someone somewhere will validate whatever bullshit you can imagine.
We’re going to get a combo of both of the books. People are already paying to install telescreens, after all.
I think it was called: The Book That Could Never Slow Down
The optimist in me hopes it’s some malicious compliance on the part of the low level employees who do the actual work.
The realist in me is pretty sure it’s just incompetence all the way down.
god help me my dad will huff and puff about biden this and biden that and some made up ‘good’ shit trump did whenever more trump shit comes out.
Brother is the same way.
“Well at least Biden wasn’t a pedophile or a rapist.”
I don’t want to say that then have his name come up in the files later. Isn’t there still several terabytes unaccounted for?
Lol, they absolutely will turn around and say he was while simultaneously saying there is no proof that Trump is a pedophile rapist. Remember when they were saying Biden was a pedo because he sniffed a baby? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
These people’s perception of reality is fundamentally twisted. They will never admit they are wrong unless they are forced into a room to watch Trump actually fuck a child in front of them and even then more than half will try with every ounce of mental power they have to try and come up with some fallacy justification for why it’s not the same.
These people are sick.
Sometimes I wish I could be a believer in religion so that I might have solace that evil people will at least face divine justice in death even if they received no Earthly justice in life. Alas, the depressing truth is that evil coasts through life without facing justice all the time, and the good just as often fall victim to the machinations, crimes, and sadism of the evil and never find any justice, retribution or closure after it. It’s one of the reasons that I don’t believe unfortunately.
what did the king say to the pope? you keep em dumb, i’ll keep em poor
the very idea that there is some space wizard that’ll make everything right in the end is a tool to keep the downtrodden complacent. opiate of the masses
opiate of the masses
Right. And I wish I could experience some opium sometimes for a bit of peace with the world. But I’m immune.
I kinda feel like the best part about being non-religious is the knowledge that everyone faces the same justice in the end. Entropy and all that.
I don’t really see how ceasing to exist is justice, nor how the fact that your nana and Hitler had the same ending is a comfort. But to each their own, I guess.
I said the best thing, didn’t say comfort. If you’re looking for comfort, you need to wish harder. All we got left here for justice is philosophy and bureaucracy and bureaucracy ain’t helping us right now.
The ultimate justice isn’t any worldly punishment it’s the knowledge that without something to establish true permanence, the impact of any action anyone could take is eventually negligible and everyone is punished the same. The punishment for your crimes is always being eventually forgotten and having the remnants of your life lost to time. For some that might take longer, but regardless of how it might make us feel, they’ll all get there.
Sometimes that can feel like a good thing and sometimes that can feel like a bad thing. Feel like it varies depending on your outlook on life at the moment.
Didn’t Hitler shoot himself?
Didn’t your nana?
Both are luckily still alive so no
Both Hitler and Nana?
Both Nanas. Unless I am misunderstanding something here
Where’s the defamation lawsuit, Mr. I Sue Everybody?
Even Trump’s attorneys know that truth is an ironclad libel defense
Oscar Wilde has entered the chat
Hope he burns painfully in hell for all eternity together with his corrupt pedo-ring protecting administration. Dream come true if someone ever speed up his arrival. Only boss Putin would miss him.
This helped get me banned on Reddit but I hope he strokes out. I hope he retains all mental faculties and suffers in a body he can’t control and I hope it’s physically painful.
Anything will get you banned on Reddit these days
Once it’s on the internet it’s permanent no matter what they do
Not really. There’s supposedly videos of stuff Trump said in the past that’s been scrubbed.
… supposedly
