they voted for
Nobody can prove the winners of the elections, going back decades in the USA , are actually the winners. It is a thing of faith
The alternative was also actively throwing the election and very openly had zero interest in meeting the people’s demands. I don’t know how anyone was surprised at the result.
One cannot technically throw the election if the counting of the ballots is not understood, and there is already mass cheating.
I’m saying there didn’t need to be results tampering for the election to be a sham. The ruling class doesn’t need to undermine their own system in such an obvious way in order to get the results they want. So even if the precise count was perfectly understood, with perfect transparency and security, it would still be trivially easy for the wealthy and powerful to manipulate the outcome as a class, to manufacture their own voter base, and obfuscate their individual roles in doing so. The exact count of the election isn’t the only thing that operates on blind faith.
So let’s say we spend all our energy fighting for perfect election transparency, whatever that means, to be and remain the case forevermore. For what? So we can vote for a person that might win, and if they win might implement their platform, and if that platform is effective might solve some of our problems, and if those problems are solved we might be making progress towards a society that might be more equitable? And when one or all of those cases don’t follow, as all evidence and history points to being the case, then we can finally feel justified in pointing fingers at other voters who are just as powerless as we are? Why don’t we just cut to the chase and fight for a system that grants direct power to the majority, the working class, and eliminates the influence of capital?
We’re arguing over stale crumbs right now man, over a party that did everything they possibly could to tell us they would not be addressing our needs, come on this is silly and a distraction at best. Whether or not we operate on the assumption that Trump’s win was legitimate, the system is just as rotten and the path to moving beyond it is exactly the same.
Excuse me for making assumptions and wall-of-texting you but this whole voter blaming thing really gets under my skin and the election tampering meta to me lands way too close to that conclusion for my tastes.
While it is true that in a democracy the ruling class would not have to rely on mass cheating, the USA went there.
One could argue that mass cheating has been part of regular politics since the 1800s, and made worse recently by voting machines run by private companies using closed source hardware and software.
The USA has sunk so far down below the democracies of the world, that it will take extra steps to correct, just to get back to the issues the other countries see day to day.
But, the average voter will find it hard to admit they have not only been tricked once, but twice (that it is a sham, and the mechanism of the sham is a scam). I fully expect the vast majority of people interested in the politics and reformation of the USA to ignore the sketchy vote counts for at least another generation, if not more. However, there cannot be any real reform until it is addressed.
To convince people there are other options, including socialism, they need to be shown their true chains.
But because people will refuse to see this, it means the only true path forward is not using the current system at all.
As an American who most certainly did not vote for this, I agree.
