• excral@feddit.org
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    Seriously, the US needs their system to be remade and restructured from the ground up. So many things were never regulated and simply not done out of tradition. But Trump breaking with every tradition has now opened pandoras box and showed to any future bad actor with how much you can get away. It’s somewhat surprising that it took 250 years for someone to break the system like this, but it most certainly won’t take another 250 years to repeat now that Trump has set the precedent, unless the system itself fundamentally changes

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    Well if our system of paedophiles leading the country is going to be upended…

    Hey, here’s an idea: Lets not participate in a system that is led by paedophiles. Let us, in fact, burn it to the ground with all the paedophiles still inside.

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      General Strike. International. We can start out smaller and part time, work up to big ones, the more the government gets rough trying to force us back, the more and longer we walk off jobs and stay off of them until demands are met.

      Create Unions of Unions that cover everyone, regardless of where they work, to bargain. Leaderless perhaps. We have leaders but they aren’t even known whom they are. Leaders by virtue of their own character, for the unions, to prevent persecution. Maybe just spitballing on that part.

      The general strike, spread worldwide, to China, to SE Asia, to Europe. We could take some real power back from these leaders using technology to prostrate us before them and fix elections.

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        Cool idea, but no practical way to implement it within the current system.

        They would basically just starve us until we had no choice but to give in, or we just die.

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          How are they gonna starve us when workers are the ones who grow the food, deliver the food to grocery stores, stock the shelves, and sell other workers the food? If we actually had more unions and did some organizing with a general strike in mind, we could setup strike funds and a plan for how to get food during a general strike. Then all we’d have to do is support each other and wait them out til our demands are met.

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            If we actually had more unions and did some organizing

            That’s a LOT of action packed into a single phrase. Maybe we’ll get there, but organizing the ability to carry out every function in a bypass of current currency/ownership is as great, if not greater, a task than a war to overthrow the government… because practically, you would be overthrowing the government.

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          Let them list lists of general strikers, I will be one of all. We are already on lists just by virtue of being discontent. Computer memory is so cheap and vast they collect everything we’ve said or done, and use computer programs to make half baked determinations about you from it. But there is no escaping it, and it’s coming for everyone anyway. We sill soon have social scores courtesy of the anti christ thiel himself, distributed to be used against us ALL secretely in ways we will never be told about or able to challenge. To pick winners and losers, decide jobs, government treatment, prices you are charged, search results you are shown, how companies treat you, whether you get that loan. All while they work to eliminate your jobs entirely to replace them with computers.

          There is no other option but to go on strike, their plans are well along, and will lead us to ruin.

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    I’m already sold on the concept, you don’t need to advertise it even more, Pam!

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    If the “system” is so deeply and widelly riddled with pedophiles that prosecuting every one in just the found files of just a single criminal pedophile ring would “collapse the system” then the “system” is nothing more than a criminal enterprise which deserves to be collapsed.

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    If prosecuting everyone in the files causes the collapse of the system, that kinda implies the system is bad and needs collapse.

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    Did Pam Bondi just admit that the American system is controlled by, or at least dependant on, pedophiles, rapists, and human / sex traffickers?

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      Yes.

      The thing is if it was true that prosecuting individuals would cause issues (it isn’t true at all) then it pretty much proves that the system is fundamentally broken and needs to change asap.
      If any one person can say “hey, I think I’ll murder that baby over there because I can get away with it…Haha, I’m needed too much, haha. No one will do anything to stop me.” then we all may as well just go back to doing sacrifices at altars.

      That disgusting bitch is being wildly dramatic, because if we were to get all the paedos in the tRUMP-Epstein files and guillotine them tomorrow nothing much will collapse.
      Nothing.
      Yeah, ok, there will be some blips whilst those power vacuums are filled. No collapse though.

      When the fat kiddie fiddler dies (or before, please) then her and enablers like her deserve justice. Prison if you want, but something more painful and permanent is also acceptable.

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        I struggle to think of an appropriate “punishment” for such people, because I don’t have the wisdom and vision to see how they can be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society. How can they be? So reluctantly I find myself thinking of capital punishment - how else to make safe a democracy from its most powerful avowed enemies?

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          I think this is probably the one and only time I could get behind slave labor, since it’s explicitly allowed in exactly this way (absolutely should not be, but maybe the rich wouldn’t support that anymore if they saw this happen, and we could get rid of it). Keeping them alive on the public dime with no hope for them being rehabilitated isn’t a great option, but I’m not a fan of death penalty either. That’s too easy.

          I say we put them to work on projects to support marginalized communities, especially shit jobs nobody else wants to do. No pay, no perks, just labor in service of the public they wronged. Maybe have them cleaning chemically-damaged sites so they can be used for something good. That sounds good since they directly profit from pollution now.

          Quietly move them from place to place so they can’t stay in contact with other powerful people, and maybe that would do it.

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          If there’s someone the current jail system works for is exactly these billionares used to live in luxury and surrounded by servants.

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            I don’t hate it, as long as they’re also financially de-clawed and all their contacts and businesses taken away. No punishment can ever make power over others safe in their hands.

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        It seems we haven’t graduated from sacrifices at altars at all based on the things these seem to have been doing. One could also view constant wars as rituals…

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      No because as far as I can tell this is just a made up quote. I hate her and this admin, but this appears to just be made up nonsense circulating on social media.

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      “Can you tell us the names of the people you won’t prosecute? If that risks collapsing the system, can you tell us which systems are at risk of collapsing? If you can’t specify systems, can you tell us if they’re American systems? If America is a nation under God, are these systems at the service of God? Is God in the Epstein files? Is it the official stance of the United States government that God is a pedophile?”

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    Pretty sure if everyone in the Epstein files was shot I’d still have a job, a boss, bills, hunger, thirst, neighbors, etc.

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      Yeah but what if the rent seekers weren’t able to seek more rent anymore? Imagine the societal collapse if everyday people had expendable income.

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      Yeah, but in Pam’s eyes common people and the elements of their life are neither “the system” nor what that “the system” exists to support.

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    I mean, I’m ok with t still prosecuting them even if it doesn’t collapse the system.

    We can do that separate if we have to.