He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.
When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
What’s that old saying like “none are so blind as those who will not see”? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in “socialism bad, democrats bad” that it’s going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.
That’s definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they’ve been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.
I think there’s some truth to this. Specifically, a lot of people are sort of reflexively conservative. That is, they don’t like change. If zohran gets free bus fare in, a lot of people who fight it now will fight to keep it.
I think some famous conservative said something once about how they can’t let social programs get in because people like them too much.
Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.
Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.
he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I’m all for this guy but he’s going to need everyone’s help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!
Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.
He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.
He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.
that aren’t set by the mayors office, but the state
edit: so many confidently incorrect people responding to me, bug off. bunch of argue bros trying to google their way to being right. Albany and the governor are involved in what he wants to do, the governor has already addressed this, he has already addressed this, idk what to tell you loons. blocking any more reply guys.
The existing one is set by the state, but I’m not aware of anything precluding the city for introducing its own. They wouldn’t be set by the mayor’s office as mayors don’t actually make laws, but I don’t see how this is a state matter. Certainly none of the coverage about it has said it’s ultimately up to Hochul.
idk what to tell you except that this is very easy to verify. NYC city taxes are set by the state and the governor has to approve them as currently set up. Hochul the democratic governor has already said she isn’t interested in this plan so it’s a fight. I’m not interested in discussing it with you any further have a nice day.
Yes, but you’re talking about the current taxes. Is there a law saying they can’t institute additional taxes themselves? Because the proposed tax is an entirely separate thing and unless that’s precluded by law the existing tax doesn’t really matter. Adams had to go through the state because he wanted to reduce the existing tax.
So, he’s planning to decrease the value of Trumps places… Dangerous moves… I still wait for the first US politicians and judges that work against the Forth Reich to causually fall from windows.
Lol what a strange stretch. I’m not Christian, I’m an atheist socialist annoyed at how the US government has historically worked to overthrow socialism everywhere in the world.
Somehow most “good god fearing american partiots” forget that their messiah was quite a social revoluzer and aramaic jew…
Actually I’m pissed that the guy and his posse that reigns my country atm are the great Trump and his band of fashists ass kissers and do not have the balls to say where the real problems are located
He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.
When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.
What’s that old saying like “none are so blind as those who will not see”? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in “socialism bad, democrats bad” that it’s going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.
Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate “Obamacare” - which apparently has “death panels”…
The insurance companies are the death panels.
That’s definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they’ve been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.
I think there’s some truth to this. Specifically, a lot of people are sort of reflexively conservative. That is, they don’t like change. If zohran gets free bus fare in, a lot of people who fight it now will fight to keep it.
I think some famous conservative said something once about how they can’t let social programs get in because people like them too much.
It won’t work because, like every socialist system everywhere, capitalists will seek to undermine and interfere.
At least someone else on your home instance noticed and admits it.
Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.
Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.
he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I’m all for this guy but he’s going to need everyone’s help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!
Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.
He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.
He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.
New York City has its own income taxes.
that aren’t set by the mayors office, but the state
edit: so many confidently incorrect people responding to me, bug off. bunch of argue bros trying to google their way to being right. Albany and the governor are involved in what he wants to do, the governor has already addressed this, he has already addressed this, idk what to tell you loons. blocking any more reply guys.
That’s incorrect. The New York City Council sets the NYC property and income tax rates. Taxes are collected by NYS.
https://www.nyc.gov/site/taxcommission/about/about-the-nyc-tax-commission.page
i don’t think your link says what you are pushing but i’m done arguing about it, have a nice day!
The existing one is set by the state, but I’m not aware of anything precluding the city for introducing its own. They wouldn’t be set by the mayor’s office as mayors don’t actually make laws, but I don’t see how this is a state matter. Certainly none of the coverage about it has said it’s ultimately up to Hochul.
idk what to tell you except that this is very easy to verify. NYC city taxes are set by the state and the governor has to approve them as currently set up. Hochul the democratic governor has already said she isn’t interested in this plan so it’s a fight. I’m not interested in discussing it with you any further have a nice day.
Yes, but you’re talking about the current taxes. Is there a law saying they can’t institute additional taxes themselves? Because the proposed tax is an entirely separate thing and unless that’s precluded by law the existing tax doesn’t really matter. Adams had to go through the state because he wanted to reduce the existing tax.
If he does. He hasn’t done anything yet.
So, he’s planning to decrease the value of Trumps places… Dangerous moves… I still wait for the first US politicians and judges that work against the Forth Reich to causually fall from windows.
Yeah but he’s doing it for those NYC liberal elites, so improving their way of life is a bad thing you see.
Socialism has failed every time it’s been attempted, for one very good reason.
I fully expect the CIA to get involved. Probably before the general election even happens.
He’s not implementing socialism. He’s using democratic socialism, an existing facet of our economy, on city-wide needs.
Social Democracy, really, but Americans insist on using the wrong name.
They’re both correct, depending on the context. A social democracy is a system of government. Democratic socialism is an ideology.
Oh and another child left behind…
Are you christian? How come? This Joshua Ben Josef guy had some quite “social” ideas… Like the needles eye thingy, the love their neighbors, etc… etc…
I never understood why they put needles in camel’s eyes. That’s some fucked up shit.
Christians are weird.
Totally!
Lol what a strange stretch. I’m not Christian, I’m an atheist socialist annoyed at how the US government has historically worked to overthrow socialism everywhere in the world.
Somehow most “good god fearing american partiots” forget that their messiah was quite a social revoluzer and aramaic jew… Actually I’m pissed that the guy and his posse that reigns my country atm are the great Trump and his band of fashists ass kissers and do not have the balls to say where the real problems are located