So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.

What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?

Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.

On which one should we put our weight?

Edit: I will leave this post here, which is a post by one of the devs of Lemmy that enumerates some of the things Lemmy 1.0 has. Lemmy 1.0 seems to be already in alpha stage and is already testable. The feature selection does look fantastic. Here is the post I am referring to: https://lemmy.ml/post/40744781

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    6·
    4 days ago

    IMO they’re both good and deserve our weight, I do think they can work off each other.

    I use Lemmy because their mobile app support is much better and Jerboa (the Lemmy maintainers’ app) has everything I need and not a single bit more. I think it would be great for Piefed to get more app support.

    There are a lot of features that I think Lemmy can benefit from emulating from Piefed, like the option to show comments from crossposted threads, filters, and more granular moderation capability. I heard Piefed is a lot lighter on resources, so if I were to self-host I might use that one. Also I have no idea how many of Lemmy’s shortcomings are due to be addressed in their planned 1.0 release.

    Lemmy development is slow whereas Piefed is a bit faster, I think each is great in their own right. Not everyone agrees with me here, but I think the Lemmy developers do a good job keeping their personal beliefs to their own instance, rather than let it infiltrate the code base. Same with Piefed. I think the development of both should be encouraged rather than trying to find rifts and making it a team sport.

    • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago
      1. A lot of people on the Threadiverse refuse to donate to Lemmy due to their beliefs, which hinders future growth of the code.
      2. A lot of people on Reddit or X or Facebook hear about the devs and immediately nope out of the entire Threadiverse, possibly going instead to Bluesky.

      So PieFed is great for the health and growth not just of itself but for the entire Threadiverse, imho. And then seeing how well and which features are most popular in PieFed, Lemmy can copy to improve experience on that side. Also as people leave Lemmy - e.g. lemm.ee shutting down was a major event but even more relevant is the overall reduction in number of active users, from ~55k in the peak after Rexodus to only ~35k today - then hopefully PieFed can at least entice some of those who are definitely leaving Lemmy to remain at least in the wider Threadiverse.

      That said, as Lemmy moves forward so slowly, increasingly it is going to miss out on an ever-growing share of what that wider Threadiverse offers. e.g. polls and hashtags, neither of which I see mentioned in the planned 1.0 release. Every single post, if Lemmy can render it at all (it can’t for polls) will lack information that only shows on PieFed. And with funding, active user counts, and number of new instances all decreasing… this going to affect Lemmy further. Most of that would have happened anyway regardless of whether PieFed existed though, so again I am glad for the latter since otherwise people would just leave the Threadiverse entirely. e.g. here is one such very interesting irl story: https://jeena.net/lemmy-switch-to-piefed.

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      and this one:

      User vote totals: You can see the total number of upvotes and downvotes given to each user.

      people were happy that lemmy does not do this…

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      that page limit is very bad. essentially makes lemmy posts ephemeral. did we forget that we hated it when reddit did that?