• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It’s not so black and white. Hear me out: I’m strong against the MAGAs and not impressed with the reps either but I’ve been noticing something interesting happening:

    I think there’s a difference between people who voted republican (conservatives) who legitimately believed a lie or just saw what they wanted to see(single issue voters) and MAGA who knew it was a lie and deeply corrupt.

    You can see more refined polarizing on the level of what is happening right now on the judiciary branch. It is Republican judges that are holding Trump at bay in the crazy executive orders and illegal and constitutional crisis at the moment.

    These judges were Republicans appointed by Bush.

    And it’s the MAGAs that are screaming “DEM JUDGES” without first checking the flags on their trojan horse before doing so. Which is really just outing themselves to the republican voting base. I think the republicans are realizing they were a shill. and yes, i am with you that they shouldn’t be all “leopards ate my face” about it and so much of that is that they were complacent while the MAGAs were making open insults to minorities right in front of them.

    That said, I think icing them out is not useful. I’m liking how the Dems are stepping up in the ruby red states and flipping seats. They are not icing them out and instead, using the strength of vote. Cuz yeah: republicans do vote. They just need to be led. at this point it’s to be lead away from their own slaughter and detriment and lessening the impact of damage that this caused(for everyone). Cuz like it or not, their votes do change the tide along with the Dems who vote.

    There’s also those who whine but refuse to vote over casual excuses that hopefully this is a wakeup call for. I still hate them more deeply than anyone else for this happening. Well maybe on par with how much I hate MAGATs who spew pure toxicity at anyone who gets in their way of blindly “hurting libs” to everyone’s detriment. Cuz sitting by and expecting everyone to save their asses while they doomglare about everything and take up space is passing their self burdening as someone else’s problem.

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      3 days ago

      I think there’s a difference between people who voted republican (conservatives) who legitimately believed a lie or just saw what they wanted to see(single issue voters) and MAGA who knew it was a lie and deeply corrupt.

      I honestly don’t think we should differentiate. Republican leadership in the house and senate have done nothing to stand against Trump and MAGA, and have completely facilitated this mess. Differentiating between “MAGA” and “Republicans” just gives them an out later. MAGA is Republican, and Republicans are MAGA, at least at the policy level.

      The Republican party needs a dramatic shift away from utterly insane and corrupt politics and behavior, and that’s only going to happen with a heavy amount of pressure from their base and elsewhere. They don’t deserve leniency in this.