• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    Expect more and more in the years to come

    In about a year a quarter of the reports everywhere will be like this

    In about two years, there will be entire programs devoted to whether or not videos, speeches or images are real or not … and it will just get harder and harder to decide what is real and what isn’t

    In about five years, no one in the public will be sure what is real and what isn’t on the internet, in the news, on social media or any where.

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      Swedish public service actually already has a program where you can send in… Anything I guess… And if they get enough requests they’ll investigate it

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      Any journalist trying to pass a fake video as news should be called to a civil or criminal court, same as medical malpractices

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      I’m gonna hazard a guess that you are right about the trend, give or take on the time. However, there will be someone that claims some authority on what is and isn’t accurate.

      Its been the job of journalists up until now, but this how they’ll finally supplant all of news media with their own (a golden Trump head of truth next to the post means grok has looked it over and says its real).

      That or an open-source tool will be developed to detect ai media, and we are able to run it locally to confirm. This is my preferred outcome. Maybe I need to start doing some reading.

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      I’m sort of surprised companies haven’t started to implement some hidden visual verification in their broadcasts. So they can prove deepfakes of it aren’t real.

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      This seems pretty inevitable, since it should really be journalism in particular that exposes and names such wrongdoings.

      In a democracy, it theoretically has an important corrective function, but independent investigative journalism is already virtually non-existent (too expensive), and so in practice it is becoming increasingly unlikely that abuses will be remedied and those responsible prosecuted.

      This leads to a situation that is already reality in the US, where serious journalism has already been largely replaced by mindless entertainment or even propaganda - I also think it’s only going to get worse.

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    What can we do, society is beyond cooked. Your friends, neighbors, colleagues, teachers, lawyers, many many people cannot identify a random still AI image right now, nevermind a fictional cohesive motion picture. They are unaware how far the tech has progressed and extent it’s become weaponized. What actually can be done?

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      Oklahoma state agencies are using bot accounts on Facebook to support deeply unpopular and illegal actions - like a turnpike that they are going to build without doing any form of environmental impact study (and lots of eminent domain bullshit.)

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      Spread information about it. Use those shitty big tech social networks to constantly post and show people what is possible. At least then they can be fairly useful instead of chatting about what Trump or Musk or Zuck decided to say today to get their daily narcissist emotional needs met.

      I dont have accounts and wont get accounts but if you do, do that.

      But yeah, honestly? We are fucked. There wont be any motivation for humans to express their humanity through art or music unless its for making money. Absolutely everything will be Ai generated and full of shit.

      Humans will long for real connections to other humans. But since there is also a huge agenda to make us fight eachother over race, gender, class, opinions, anything… I dont know if we can connect as well anymore.

      At least outside of this fucking tech i do feel I have real connections with people. Im grateful for that, because loneliness is horrible.

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    Regardless of whether or not this is ai:
    There’s no evidence that there was a roadblock.
    If there was a roadblock, then we still don’t know whether or not it was put up by Hamas.
    Despite there being sound recording on site, no cries of “thank you america” are recorded. As well as it being a ridiculous claim that panders more to american republican sensitivities (they said thank you) than any normal behaviour, there is again no evidence for this happening.

    This xheet reads like one of those stories that ends with “and then everybody clapped”: totally made up.

    The same kind of misinformation has existed long before ai image generation became a thing. To increase the credibility of false narratives with a non critical audience, the video and audio only needs to vaguely resemble what is being described. They could also take a snippet from a real video recording from another place and time + real audio recording from yet another place and time, and call it good enough.

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    Why do you think this video was fake AI generated?

    edit: To be clear, I’m not suggesting the story is accurate. I’m questioning why OP things this specific video is AI generated as opposed to a real video being taken out of context.

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      I’m not inclined to trust The Daily Wire, but I also can’t exactly see anything that stands out like crazy that makes me think it’s fake.

      It definitely has a somewhat surreal feeling look to it, but I’ve been tracking various faces and objects in the background and they don’t seem to move, change, or distort at all in a way that’s unnatural.

      Either AI video generation technology got insanely good (or they just had a very lucky break with happening to get a good quality output) and I’m simply not able to fully identify it, or the video is real but the context and quote is what’s fake.

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        I think I might be going insane. Every rock, face and little detail remains the same, yet it feels weird af.

        Can we no longer trust any media?

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          I think we rescued a point where AI videos have Uncanny Valley status, and because of that, any unusual thing, or less than great quality in a real video will make us doubt its authenticity. A person who is unaware of generative AI (but aware of CGI in general) will probably not think this is fake.

          I’m inclined to think this is real. It bears no signs of the Hallmark tells of an AI video. Everything looks very solid and non-deforming.

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        I think the feeling weird might just be that the depth of field is narrow and keeps changing. It creates a really strange look. No idea I’d thats a common thing in AI video but it seems like it could just be a quirk of how they chose to film…

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          No idea I’d thats a common thing in AI video

          As far as I’m aware, it’s not. Most AI video is consistently clear, or at most just low resolution. (i.e. it tends to maintain a consistent visual style for each clip, without much changing to composition, lighting, style, depth of field, etc)

          I was originally inclined to think that the blurring was added in post, to cover up moments where the AI generated footage did something that made it obvious it was AI, but even regardless of that the faces, positioning, and lighting in the background remained pretty consistent across the length of the video, which AI tends to not be very good with. (i.e. in a crowd of people faces will randomly appear, disappear, move, change height, etc in a way that’s unnatural)

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      I zoomed in on one frame - it’s a kind mess of abstract lines and smears, but it also could be AI enhancement with a modern phone, imo. I’d like additional supporting evidence as well.

      Frame

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        I don’t know anything about how cameras are “enhancing” pictures/videos but in your still I would wonder 1: how is this wire supposedly connected to these randomly placed fence posts, and 2 what is happening here, arms and faces all through the wiring?

        Any wire I’ve ever used would bend and easily be pulled down by a person trying to climb over it, it can’t be electric, because people are all touching it

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          it’s a grid, like the fence in front of it. camera sensors are also grids. if they line up just the right way you can get a moiré pattern that hides details.

          people are pushing on the fence, breaking it.

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            The same reporter, in her post before it, same fence supposedily. The gate appears to be for that fence, which sounds as if to be for crowd management. No signs of Hamas being present at said gate/fence or else the troops present would either be giving or taking fire. The stories don’t line up either

            Either that or the fence is a standing structure in the cement and had nothing to do with the aid delivery, which means they would be manipulating a narrative completely.

            Kassy Akiva @KassyAkiva 12h There were a few hiccups today, including the contractors distributing aid needing to fall back to relieve pressure at a gate. But once they didc, order was immediately restored, according to my source.

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      I completely suck at telling AI stuff, but Hamas soldiers can’t take three steps outside without being bombed and these morons want us to think they had the time or resources to set up something like that? The claim is fake either way.

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      Tbh, it doesn’t matter, the video doesn’t show anything. Its just some random guy and people cheering. It could have been shot in Croatia for all we know.

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    there’s no source for this being ai. it doesn’t look like any ai video i’ve seen. the clip is way too long, for one.