Reading that reddit comment section was depressing. Seeing people making excuses and saying just dont buy them. Redditors are way above the general player base in terms of awareness. Became they can actually have long form structured discussion about the state of the game. Even then the response is still “this sucks and its kind of greedy”.
Seeing the things people put up with is blackpilling. It actually spreads over the whole industry. I wish I hated technology and gaming so I wouldn’t care watching it be farmed by corporations.
It has nothing to do with reddit and has been going on since the days of frigging usenet.
When someone likes something, they find ways to make an exception. The biggest example being The DRM Wars where EVERYONE was suddenly an active duty military person stationed in an airgap in The Middle East and could not connect to any server to authenticate their game (but had no problem spending hours arguing on message boards). Then Valve say you need to use something called “Steam” to play Half-Life 2 and suddenly everyone is ready to say that Steam is different and not actually DRM even though the model wasn’t that different than how Stardock or even frigging Gamespy were doing stuff.
Everyone hated microtransactions and that is TOTALLY the only reason people were angry at the Star Wars game that came out within a month or two of TLJ. Then Genshin Impact came out and suddenly everyone wanted to make it abundantly clear that that was okay because, yes, it is a gacha game but it is totally a fair one where you can do everything without ever spending any money if you just grind endlessly and use multiple accounts to hoard day limited currencies.
But also? People hated DLC way back when it was something you downloaded from a BBS after mailing the developers a physical check. But when it was a game people liked (Star Crusader with mutha fugging Roman Alexander!!!), it was suddenly okay.
Which is to say: Things have been real shit for coming on 40 years of gaming. And yet, by and large, video games keep getting better (not so much the games industry for the people who make games).
Tbh this is also the attitude of cod players who stuck around after the BO6 release. Warzone especially took a huge step backwards. 20 Hz server-side updates for a battle royale game is pretty sad
That was not my attitude. Been sticking with the game since the first beta and have only recently been getting bummed by the game. My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.
Was having fun getting Dark Matter and have it on all the weapons minus this brand new season. But see my post in here that I made about the game becoming less fun.
My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.
By admitting to the sunk cost fallacy, you’ve really only proven my point. You’re gonna find ways to defend the game more than you should, unconsciously or not.
I know it’s hard, but in this current era of live service games recording metrics beyond just purchased copies of the game, you should vote with your play time, regardless of how much you’ve already put into the game.
But I’m not proving your point. Nowhere have I defended the game.
I’m saying that I made my bed, so I’m lying in it. The game was an investment I made and so I was getting my money’s worth. It was a mental decision I made before buying the game.
It helped that I like Call of Duty and so enjoyed myself for a good while, despite Black Op 6 being a total mess that’s hemorrhaging casual players and now hardcore players because they’ve shat the bed with Black Ops 6 one too many times (they, being Activi$ion and Treyarch).
Though I like Call of Duty, I’m not a fanboy who will defend the game. I’m a simple 9-5er casual player who turns the game on, has a bit of fun working to a camo goal, then turns the game off when I can’t take being smoked by the supposed “skill” based matchmaking anymore.
I’m trying to show you that it’s way more nuanced than you’re making it out to be.
In regards to the sunk cost “fallacy,” it was not a fallacy when I first made my decision to purchase the game. I’m only recently at a fork in the road with this game due to its problems making it less and less fun for me. I mentioned earlier that I played the first beta. Don’t you think I would’ve not purchased the game if I hadn’t had fun then?
I have no remorse for my purchase of the game whatsoever. Many hours of entertainment have been had. However, it will be an actual sunk cost fallacy for my purchase of season 4 Blackcell if I’m not enjoying it and feel the need to continue. I’m currently at that fork in the road right now and haven’t decided whether to put the game down or not. Most likely will though if I can’t find a way to make it fun. If I decided to anyway, then it would be the sunk cost fallacy. Not for Black Ops 6 as a whole, but for Season 4 Blackcell.
Also, if you wish to throw fallacies around, I must call you out on the cherry picking fallacy. The part you quoted had neatly been cushioned above it and below it with reasoning as to why my purchase decision wasn’t an example of the sunken cost fallacy, yet you seemed to have ignored the whole context and just plucked that part of my post out in order to what, feel like a smug debater or something? Lol.
Reading that reddit comment section was depressing. Seeing people making excuses and saying just dont buy them. Redditors are way above the general player base in terms of awareness. Became they can actually have long form structured discussion about the state of the game. Even then the response is still “this sucks and its kind of greedy”.
Seeing the things people put up with is blackpilling. It actually spreads over the whole industry. I wish I hated technology and gaming so I wouldn’t care watching it be farmed by corporations.
People normalizing and defending this shit by saying that are part of the problem and I would even say the main reason for this
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Honestly I think the fact it got enough backlash that Treyarch removed it is a good thing.
It has nothing to do with reddit and has been going on since the days of frigging usenet.
When someone likes something, they find ways to make an exception. The biggest example being The DRM Wars where EVERYONE was suddenly an active duty military person stationed in an airgap in The Middle East and could not connect to any server to authenticate their game (but had no problem spending hours arguing on message boards). Then Valve say you need to use something called “Steam” to play Half-Life 2 and suddenly everyone is ready to say that Steam is different and not actually DRM even though the model wasn’t that different than how Stardock or even frigging Gamespy were doing stuff.
Everyone hated microtransactions and that is TOTALLY the only reason people were angry at the Star Wars game that came out within a month or two of TLJ. Then Genshin Impact came out and suddenly everyone wanted to make it abundantly clear that that was okay because, yes, it is a gacha game but it is totally a fair one where you can do everything without ever spending any money if you just grind endlessly and use multiple accounts to hoard day limited currencies.
But also? People hated DLC way back when it was something you downloaded from a BBS after mailing the developers a physical check. But when it was a game people liked (Star Crusader with mutha fugging Roman Alexander!!!), it was suddenly okay.
Which is to say: Things have been real shit for coming on 40 years of gaming. And yet, by and large, video games keep getting better (not so much the games industry for the people who make games).
Tbh this is also the attitude of cod players who stuck around after the BO6 release. Warzone especially took a huge step backwards. 20 Hz server-side updates for a battle royale game is pretty sad
That was not my attitude. Been sticking with the game since the first beta and have only recently been getting bummed by the game. My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.
Was having fun getting Dark Matter and have it on all the weapons minus this brand new season. But see my post in here that I made about the game becoming less fun.
By admitting to the sunk cost fallacy, you’ve really only proven my point. You’re gonna find ways to defend the game more than you should, unconsciously or not.
I know it’s hard, but in this current era of live service games recording metrics beyond just purchased copies of the game, you should vote with your play time, regardless of how much you’ve already put into the game.
But I’m not proving your point. Nowhere have I defended the game.
I’m saying that I made my bed, so I’m lying in it. The game was an investment I made and so I was getting my money’s worth. It was a mental decision I made before buying the game.
It helped that I like Call of Duty and so enjoyed myself for a good while, despite Black Op 6 being a total mess that’s hemorrhaging casual players and now hardcore players because they’ve shat the bed with Black Ops 6 one too many times (they, being Activi$ion and Treyarch).
Though I like Call of Duty, I’m not a fanboy who will defend the game. I’m a simple 9-5er casual player who turns the game on, has a bit of fun working to a camo goal, then turns the game off when I can’t take being smoked by the supposed “skill” based matchmaking anymore.
I’m trying to show you that it’s way more nuanced than you’re making it out to be.
In regards to the sunk cost “fallacy,” it was not a fallacy when I first made my decision to purchase the game. I’m only recently at a fork in the road with this game due to its problems making it less and less fun for me. I mentioned earlier that I played the first beta. Don’t you think I would’ve not purchased the game if I hadn’t had fun then?
I have no remorse for my purchase of the game whatsoever. Many hours of entertainment have been had. However, it will be an actual sunk cost fallacy for my purchase of season 4 Blackcell if I’m not enjoying it and feel the need to continue. I’m currently at that fork in the road right now and haven’t decided whether to put the game down or not. Most likely will though if I can’t find a way to make it fun. If I decided to anyway, then it would be the sunk cost fallacy. Not for Black Ops 6 as a whole, but for Season 4 Blackcell.
Also, if you wish to throw fallacies around, I must call you out on the cherry picking fallacy. The part you quoted had neatly been cushioned above it and below it with reasoning as to why my purchase decision wasn’t an example of the sunken cost fallacy, yet you seemed to have ignored the whole context and just plucked that part of my post out in order to what, feel like a smug debater or something? Lol.
Congrats on getting me to repeat myself, I guess.