These people are genuinely conspiracy brained morons.

ā€œPlaces like City Hall and Albany and even Washington, DC, are more responsive to the groups than to the people on the ground,ā€ New York Rep. Ritchie Torres said at WelcomeFest, held at a downtown Washington hotel and billed as a forum to help the party find more electable candidates and messages.

Seconds after Torres’ shot at ā€œthe groupsā€ that have become intra-Democratic shorthand for excessive left-wing influence, protesters from … the group Climate Defiance charged on stage with signs reading ā€œGAYS AGAINST GENOCIDEā€ and ā€œGENOCIDE RITCHIE,ā€ attacking his support for Israel’s war in Gaza.

As the activists were yanked out of the room, conference organizers played Carly Simon’s You’re So Vain on the loudspeakers in the room.

The mockery was part of the point. Welcome PAC, the main organizer of the conference and one of several outfits that have emerged in recent months to try to reverse the party’s post-Obama losses, was happy to be accused of embracing a pro-growth ā€œAbundanceā€ agenda or attacking progressive urban policies.

ā€œAny time someone is against something like ā€˜abundance,’ it means that they’re afraid of something. They’re afraid of losing power,ā€ said Welcome PAC’s Lauren Harper Pope, a former Beto O’Rourke adviser. ā€œIf the left feels threatened by what we’re doing, then I say: ā€˜You’re still welcome in our coalition.ā€™ā€

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ā€œIf you can financially afford to go to a protest every day, you are a different person than most people in my community,ā€ said Washington Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, defending her vote for House GOP legislation that would require proof of citizenship from every voter.

Asked about recent polling from the progressive group Demand Progress that found pro-business ā€œabundanceā€ ideas faring worse than anti-corporate ā€œpopulism,ā€ WelcomeFest speakers scoffed.

ā€œIt’s what happens when you test an economic textbook for the Democratic Party against a romance novel,ā€ said Rep. Jake Auchincloss, D-Mass. ā€œIt’s such a bad poll.ā€

Shadowy ā€œā€ā€œgroupsā€ā€œā€ who are supposedly coordinating every protest, protestors are all on payroll or rich or unemployed so therefore they don’t count, activists and ā€œā€ā€œgroupsā€ā€œā€ are never part of or representative of even a section of the public, and all polling showing their framing and ideas being unpopular are just bad polls. This is conspiratorial thinking, 1:1 with what conservatives and Republicans have been saying for decades.

And they’re repeadedly wrong on the polling they claim to love so much.

All because people got mad at the and demanded they do their jobs, demanded they actually stand up for people who are literally being picked up and deported for no reason besides not liking Trump or having an accent when they speak.

WelcomeFest’s less single-issue enemies have highlighted the Republican and pharmaceutical-industry pasts of some of the conference’s donors, arguing that it’s naive to think billionaire donors could save the Democrats.

The Revolving Door Project, which has campaigned to keep Democrats with corporate ties out of powerful positions, called the whole project a ā€œself-serving crusadeā€ against popular politics.

ā€œA billionaire-funded movement to keep billionaires happy with Democrats by wielding only poll-tested language that billionaires are okay with is a sure path toward a President Vance,ā€ said the project’s executive director, Jeff Hauser.

Dan Cohen, the strategist who conducted Demand Progress’ abundance-or-populism poll, said that the party wasn’t facing a binary choice and could incorporate some more pro-growth ā€œabundanceā€ ideas into a successful populist campaign.

ā€œThat kind of conflict is unhelpful because it’s just wrong,ā€ Cohen said, calling for a broader focus on ā€œstrengthening a Democratic Party that’s trying to get its sh*t together again.ā€

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      I can not describe how much it’s going to piss people off if the democrats claim to be for abundance after 4 years of telling people ā€œactually the economy great, I don’t give a fuck if everything in the grocery store has doubled in price in 12 months look at this graph you fucking dumbassā€

      I mean seriously, ā€œfight for $15ā€ has floundered for so long it’s not even viable anymore. I really can’t wait to see the reaction when the people who have shived anybody who says ā€œMedicare for allā€ start trying this utopianism bullshit.

      ā€œWell make sure there’s abundanceā€

      ā€œI can’t afford groceries and just got kicked of off snap and everybody who has ever said the word abundance supported thatā€

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        Well you see, the problem wasn’t them, they think the problem was that Trump associated them with trans people and immigrants. Harris tried her best to say Biden enforces the border even better than Trump, but it didn’t work. So clearly, they need to be even more exclusionary with trans people and even more bloodthirsty with Palestinians and immigrants. They’ll get reelected in no time!

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        Not super surprised. I figured it was something similar to ā€œIf we increase the GDP enough, we all end up good! A rising tide lifts all boats!ā€ But because GDP can go up with just rich people doing good, then it sounds a lot like trickle down to me. But I also don’t want to mischaracterize their argument if they meant something else.

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          If only? Nah they’re all about silly regulations are why people aren’t building housing.

          Or that climate change could be fixed if we stopped trying to regulate it.

          They say that Democrats have focused on the process rather than results and favored stasis over growth by backing [zoning regulations] developing strict environmental laws, and tying expensive requirements to public infrastructure spending.

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        They’re promising that everybody will have more than enough after telling all the people who correctly said they didn’t have enough they were wrong for 4 years.

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          How? Dem Soc welfare? I’m guessing not because centrist Americans Democrats don’t like Bernie or AOC. Increase production of everything? How? Reducing regulations, like someone else said, I’m guessing?