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      6 hours ago

      Civil war. When one group of civilians is going against another group of civilians.

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        5 hours ago

        Do you think that the union army or the Confederate army were civilians in the American civil war?

        Civilians = non-combatants

        If they’re engaging in warfare, they aren’t civilians

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          2 hours ago

          That is very USA centric, so I dont know the background enough there. The argument i am trying to make is against the “there is no justification” part of your statement. A similar statement would be there is no justification to kill anybody ever. Sounds all good and valid, until shit hits the fan properly. If you read my question as “killing civillians is fine” then that is an incorrect interpretation.

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            59 minutes ago

            Killing should only be done in self defense. Dropping bombs on civilians is not self defense

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              36 minutes ago

              I got no argument against this formulation. Unless of course someone would threaten to kill my family unless i press a button and then random people die and my family gets to live. Not self defense, not combatants. I’d press the shit out of it anyway.