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    I reckon we’ll get another year out of it, and I also think within a year, there will be plenty of workarounds to make W11 usable for moderately tech savvy people like us

    The loudest voices shouting about how bad W11 is are always Linux users, especially on Lemmy

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      The loudest voices shouting about how bad W11 is are always Linux users, especially on Lemmy

      If we had nothing to complain about, we’d still be using Windows. It’s why we aren’t.

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        I’m still using windows and I’ve nothing to complain about; I know how to get it to work perfectly for me.

        Go to the Linux community and 70% of the questions are “how do I get this to work?”

        You definitely have a lot to complain about, and yous do, frequently. Most adults don’t have time to fanny about trying to get a program to work with their OS, so they’re happy with Mac or Windows

        If Linux was everyday-usable they’d have waaaaaay more than 4% market share by now, it’s been over two decades

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          Go to any tech community and most of the questions are “how do I get this to work?”

          It’s why they made an account. Go to any Steam game community page, lmao. Linux isn’t exclusive on that one. They wouldn’t be posting if they didn’t have a question? It’s why they showed up.

          Do people go to Microsoft forums to hang out with their buddies?

          I know how good Linux is, it’s why I use it. I won’t be trolled out of using it because it’s too hard for you. I use it every day. I’m using it rn.

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          Linux Mint is easier to use, you don’t have to edit the sudoers file as well. Linux has limited marketshare because of its marketing. Companies aren’t interested in a OS for PCs (personal computers). It doesn’t need to be efficient or run well. They just care about keeping the agreements with Big Tech and that things work smoothly with one another (Microsoft working well in cloud/server/local) and that their enterprise software is running well. That goes along with close ties to Big Tech. Linux can reach major parts of the personal computer space, but it will need to do so without the help of Big Companies, which is a challenge.

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            Linux has limited marketshare because of its Marketing.

            I think Linux has limited market share because “will software X work on it?” and “are there drivers for hardware Y?” are legitimate questions.

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            It’s party marketing, yes, but it’s also Quality of Life features. Windows either has a setting you can find by farting around in the settings or it doesn’t work. Linux can have every setting, but most of them need CLI work, research, and the wherewithal to unfuck whatever you fucked.

            If CLIs could be listed, explained, and parametrized in a simple GUI, it would make learning them 10x easier. More default scripts for unfucking things would also help (like Window’s old troubleshooting wizards). More status checking and better error messages, so one can tell when something is broken without manually inspecting every module.

            It’s gotten much better, and will certainly improve by necessity if more average users pick Linux up, but it’s a step that has to be taken before Linux sees a major marketshare, regardless of marketing.

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          If Linux was everyday-usable they’d have waaaaaay more than 4% market share by now, it’s been over two decades

          You are conveniently forgetting that every Laptop that isn’t a Mac comes with Windows by default

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      I actually liked some of the features added that came with win11 but it was so bloated that it wouldn’t run that well on old laptop.

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      I’m a windows-fan since… Errr… The first one. I’m a pro also with tons of win-certificates for everything. Even i started to effing hate w11. It started nice with the hdr and such, but the startmenu alone made me go nuts. Bought the one from stardock, didn’t satisfy me, made my own. If they don’t rudder back with their obnoxious ui in w12, I’m probably leaving and only dual booting for optimal gaming. I’m not troubled by the whole consumer annoyances coz I’m in a local domain with a lot of group-policies. Also global ad-/telemetry-block and firewall.