‘Funny’ enough, the US backed or was amicable towards several authoritarian socialist polities, so long as they were anti-Soviet, including Yugoslavia, Somalia, and an on-again off-again relationship with the Arab Ba’athist states.
Realpolitik > ideology for the Western Bloc, it would seem.
I was just coming here to say that lol. We were fine with violent communist dictatorships when it served our interest, just ask good old Uncle Joe.
Edit: And, of course, any functioning government at all but definitely a big one like the US is always a coalition of different interests, ideologies, and competing goals. The ratio of US motivation that’s pure anti-communist ideology is never zero but it also was rarely 100%. There were people in US intelligence who worked with Ho Chi Minh before the war started and were pissed and heartbroken when we ignored all his impassioned letters about the rights of small nations to self-determination and started carpet bombing.
Me watching the US post-WW2 be dragged into colonial nonsense by the French and British erasing our genuineanti-colonialefforts and slowly solidifying a gruesome neocolonial culture in our institutions and foreign policy
I mean, not to erase our actual colonial past, or that our position in Latin America was always much less anti-colonial.
Ho went to the Paris Peace Conf after ww1 and tried to get recognition - thinking one country that threw off the yoke of colonialism might help another out…
There’s no guarantee that the US would’ve been supportive under another leader, but considering that Wilson went out of his way to antagonize non-white petitioners in the conferences after WW1, including the powerful and allied Japanese Empire, I imagine that we can add at least a few more pineapples shoved up Wilson’s ass in hell for that.
‘Funny’ enough, the US backed or was amicable towards several authoritarian socialist polities, so long as they were anti-Soviet, including Yugoslavia, Somalia, and an on-again off-again relationship with the Arab Ba’athist states.
Realpolitik > ideology for the Western Bloc, it would seem.
We have no friends, America only has interests 🎶
I was just coming here to say that lol. We were fine with violent communist dictatorships when it served our interest, just ask good old Uncle Joe.
Edit: And, of course, any functioning government at all but definitely a big one like the US is always a coalition of different interests, ideologies, and competing goals. The ratio of US motivation that’s pure anti-communist ideology is never zero but it also was rarely 100%. There were people in US intelligence who worked with Ho Chi Minh before the war started and were pissed and heartbroken when we ignored all his impassioned letters about the rights of small nations to self-determination and started carpet bombing.
Me watching the US post-WW2 be dragged into colonial nonsense by the French and British erasing our genuine anti-colonial efforts and slowly solidifying a gruesome neocolonial culture in our institutions and foreign policy
I mean, not to erase our actual colonial past, or that our position in Latin America was always much less anti-colonial.
Yeah, pretty much. It’s always an amalgam, it’s never simple or static.
Ho went to the Paris Peace Conf after ww1 and tried to get recognition - thinking one country that threw off the yoke of colonialism might help another out…
but that would make sense. sigh.
https://docsteach.org/documents/document/ho-chi-minh-lansing
He forgot to be white. A classic blunder.
not wrong.
There’s no guarantee that the US would’ve been supportive under another leader, but considering that Wilson went out of his way to antagonize non-white petitioners in the conferences after WW1, including the powerful and allied Japanese Empire, I imagine that we can add at least a few more pineapples shoved up Wilson’s ass in hell for that.
capitol idea, huzzah.