Vote for the change you want to see.

The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can’t happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.

If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we’d be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.

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    Electoral politics won’t work in favour of leftist goals. The system is rigged from the start.

    Best you can do is vote for a lesser evil.

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      How are they rigged? Except for requiring a majority, which seems reasonable, If we can’t get a majority of the Left to agree with us, then what is your alternative? Force them to adopt your ideals?

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        Just look at how basically every left party in Europe has become a neoliberal painted in a different color. Germany has a coalition of “social democrats”, a green party and liberals and they still cut welfare, try to deport black/brown people (sorely needed on the job market) and screw up climate politics.

        Every concession made in favour of the left has been reached through mass movements.

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          Maybe - and yeah this is fucking WILD but hear me out - maybe Leftism just isn’t as popular as you think it is?

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            Usually, leftist politics, like cutting taxes for wages and raising taxes for the rich is quite popular.

            And sorry that I’m judging a party for not being leftist when its’ name is literally “social democrats”. /s

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          And they’re making silly arguments.

          At the end of the day, Sanders got 43% of the vote to Clinton’s 55%. That has nothing to do with Superdelegates. We just couldn’t get enough progressives to go vote. That’s it. That’s the entire issue.