Rome nearly collapsed many many times, and arguably did collapse when going from Republic to Principate, , then again in the third century before Diocletian reformed the empire and founded the Tetrarchy, which then collapsed and turned into the Constantinian system with constant civil wars.
Rome was very very far from stable, and in fact one of the defining phenomenons during the entire period was a lot of political violence and class struggles.
Yeah, it was rather nasty even as a Republic. Even when they weren’t in the midst of a civil war there were moments where you’d have literal gangs in the streets being used to delay or secure elections, slave revolts, issues over farmland distribution that would often lead to starvation. Conflict of the orders happened - 200 something year long fight for pleb representation and political mobility.
It really was an absolute circus at times, and it’s romanticized too much.
I should attend one of your brunches. i make a very good collapsing western front. I’ve been doing the Parisian (coffee + hatred + optional cigarette) for a while and it does me good, but I’m always up for a change
Ooh collapsing fronts are great! We just keep things light and move back every time the Carthaginians advance. We like to leave them bad yelp reviews and gentrification to tease them as they pursue. They seem to be getting worn down while our brunches are better by the day!
Rome nearly collapsed many many times, and arguably did collapse when going from Republic to Principate, , then again in the third century before Diocletian reformed the empire and founded the Tetrarchy, which then collapsed and turned into the Constantinian system with constant civil wars.
Rome was very very far from stable, and in fact one of the defining phenomenons during the entire period was a lot of political violence and class struggles.
Yeah, it was rather nasty even as a Republic. Even when they weren’t in the midst of a civil war there were moments where you’d have literal gangs in the streets being used to delay or secure elections, slave revolts, issues over farmland distribution that would often lead to starvation. Conflict of the orders happened - 200 something year long fight for pleb representation and political mobility.
It really was an absolute circus at times, and it’s romanticized too much.
How else would you describe the ROMAN empire?
Well, for the last millennium it was Greek speaking so… Romaioi-cized?
yeah i’ve had souffles do that too
I hate it when my soufflés collapse and turn into an ethno-cultural oligarchic military dictatorship!
i see you’ve been to my dinner parties
My brunches are prey similar except we have souffle pancakes and it’s acceptable to day drink.
I should attend one of your brunches. i make a very good collapsing western front. I’ve been doing the Parisian (coffee + hatred + optional cigarette) for a while and it does me good, but I’m always up for a change
Ooh collapsing fronts are great! We just keep things light and move back every time the Carthaginians advance. We like to leave them bad yelp reviews and gentrification to tease them as they pursue. They seem to be getting worn down while our brunches are better by the day!
just let me know in advance if i’m going need to bring the elephants. I cross no river without them.
Oh we don’t have any rivers 😏