• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    Sorry. If trans people and their allies are such a small insignificant group that our rights are negotiable, then you’ve decided our votes aren’t important.

    To liberals, Dems can sacrifice trans people because we’re so few in number. At the same time, they’ll demand trans people vote Dem because every vote counts. In the classic fascist fashion, we’re both weak and powerful at the same time somehow.

    Sorry, but I won’t vote for a vice signaller like Newsom.

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      Then you’re a direct enabler of trump. Fuck you and your high minded puratism.

      Newsom might listen and change. Trump will not. Choose your battle.

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        Then tell him to change his mind and stop telling trans people to vote for someone who actively wants them removed.

        You’re telling black people on 1960s to vote for George Wallace.

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          I’ll tell him. And I’ll continue to vote for him even if he doesn’t change his mind. will you?

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            Why would “you need to change but if you don’t we’ll support you anyway” be a remotely effective message for achieving political change?

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                then if progressive vote matter, it’s better for you to start pressuring the DNC into doing progressive policies, and providing progressive canidates, and to stop fucking getting in the way where the progressive vote wins.

                except right now you and people like you are already demanding progressives give up their voice THREE YEARS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

                there is nothing you could possibly say, and there is nothing the DNC can possibly say right now. only direct action on progressive policies are going to move the needle after the bullshit they pulled

                don’t like it? then tell chuck to send me a letter about it

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            He’s slightly better, so yes. But I’m going to expect better from the lesser evil than the evil party of Republicans.

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        Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. Newsom, like Labor in the UK, shamelessly feed in to transphobia in an attempt to pander to the right. UK liberals haven’t listened. And corporate Democrats are walking the same path, completely ignoring their constituents. Trump is as likely to change on the issue as Newsom is. In fact, both have changed their views on trans issues to move substantially to the right. Both have walked the same road.

        Sorry, but fuck you and your fascist collaboration. And specifically, fuck your lack of morals. The amorality of liberals like yourself is precisely why fascists are advancing. You’re a fascist enabler and collaborator.

        Just listen to yourself. You’re condemning someone for having a moral center. That’s psychopath behavior.

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          When it comes to US national politics at the end of the day you have to choose. When it comes to the president, you have 3choices. The Republican, the Democrat, or tossing your vote. It doesn’t matter if you write in Mickey Mouse, vote for that Green Party lady, Lindon LeRouche or whomever, you and I both know that you’re throwing away your vote, and chances are handing it to the Republican nominee. Your “morals” mean nothing. You shit on the rest of us to make some point that literally nobody will be impacted by, because you gave the Devil your vote. In conclusion, fuck you.

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          Trump is as likely to change on the issue as Newsom is.

          Hahahahaha k

          Sorry, but fuck you and your fascist collaboration. And specifically, fuck your lack of morals. The amorality of liberals like yourself is precisely why fascists are advancing. You’re a fascist enabler and collaborator.

          Don’t be sorry, you have an opinion. It’s a stupid fucking opinion, but it’s one nonetheless. Fascists are advancing because of vote abstainers and the consistency of those on the right. I’ll continue to vote left, just as I’ll continue to abuse those on the right. If you’re not voting Democrat in the US system, you’re enabling right. Pretty cut and dried.