Yes. Because Trump’s transphobia pales in comparison to big bad evil Newsom? Are you for real?
This reminds me of when so many left-leaning people were tricked into not voting for Harris because things are terrible in the middle east. Yes, Biden/Harris wasn’t doing much to stop the murder in Gaza. And yes, they weren’t doing anything to stop aid or weapons sales to Israel.
But, did they think Trump would do better? Did anybody think Trump gives a damn about some poor brown muslims? Of course not! Everyone should have known that Trump would gleefully help to burn Gaza to the ground to make room for a new casino resort and a 200 foot golden statue of himself. At lease with Harris, she’d be under a lot of pressure to do SOMETHING to help the Palestinians. But, do you think Trump is going to be swayed by protests? Get real.
So what was the plan? What was the point of hoping that Harris would lose? Was it to teach the Dems a “lesson” so that in 4 years they would get back into office and actually help Gaza?
WTF?!? There are two GIGANTIC flaws with this “plan”.
Project 2025 made it clear that if Trump won, the US would never see a free and fair election ever again. So even if the “lesson” was learned, it wouldn’t matter.
Even if the Dems DID somehow win in 2028, what would they be able to do after 4 YEARS of genocide? Gaza (and possibly the West Bank) would be completely destroyed by then.
Great friggin plan, genius!!
The problem is not with Dems. It’s with organizations like AIPAC, who will spend millions of dollars to unseat any Democrat who dares to suggests that we should cut off Israel. (just look what happened to Cori Bush in Missouri’s 1st district). US politicians are scared shitless of these groups, and of being called anti-semites for disallowing Israel.
So, to get back to the original point … If it does come down to Newsom and Trump/Vance in 2028, I will be sad. But I will vote Newsom, because at least I know he isn’t going to declare that all trans people are sex criminals, round them up, and send them to “re-education” camps for “treatment”. Or, something even worse.
That is what these fascist will do if they have the power do it. And they are doing everything they can to wear down our constitutional rights in order to do it.
So, don’t be stupid. Don’t vote (or non-vote) for the worst possible outcome. Because you are going to absolutely destroy people’s lives. Including your own.
So, to get back to the original point … If it does come down to Newsom and Trump/Vance in 2028, I will be sad. But I will vote Newsom, because at least I know he isn’t going to declare that all trans people are sex criminals, round them up, and send them to “re-education” camps for “treatment”.
What evidence do you have for that? He’s been speed running transphobia. This is what every trans person is shouting to the rafters about, but folks like you refuse to listen. That’s what people thought about Labor in UK, but then they went to enact the most transphobic policies in all of Western Europe.
Transphobia follows a very very predictable path. You start by compromising on sports, an issue that conservatives chose precisely because it seems so minor. But by giving in to them, you’re giving in to the core principle - that trans people are somehow dangerous and that it’s OK to restrict our rights in order to “protect” other people. And once you go down that path, there’s no stopping it. There is no scientifically valid reason for restricting trans people from sports; it’s purely about conservatives being disgusted about trans people existing. And once you’ve given in to the bigots on one form of irrational bigotry, you just keep falling further and further.
Every state that has passed sports bans has also gone on to pass or consider bathroom bans, restrictions on care for minors and adults, ID restrictions, and a host of other vile policies. And each step you take down the road to Hell, the easier the next one becomes. By passing a sports ban, you are stating you believe trans people to be dangerous people that need laws targeting our existence. And once you do that, even once, you are on the road to Hell.
Yes. Because Trump’s transphobia pales in comparison to big bad evil Newsom? Are you for real?
Find a place where I said that. You can’t, because you just made it up. I am a trans person living in America in fear because of how Trump’s transphobia has affected my life. I’m not going to leave the country in the next 3 years unless it’s permanently, because I might lose my passport. My access to medication is in peril. I have spoken about all these things extensively. Demanding that be the subject of a post about Gavin Newsom is ridiculous and derailing from the fact that Newsom’s transphobia is also unacceptable.
This reminds me of when so many left-leaning people were tricked into not voting for Harris because things are terrible in the middle east.
Cool story, irrelevant since I both live in a blue state and voted.
If it’s super important to have trans people not bring up Newsom’s transphobia, there is one and only one way to solve it: put pressure on him now to not abandon us.
Yes. Because Trump’s transphobia pales in comparison to big bad evil Newsom? Are you for real?
This reminds me of when so many left-leaning people were tricked into not voting for Harris because things are terrible in the middle east. Yes, Biden/Harris wasn’t doing much to stop the murder in Gaza. And yes, they weren’t doing anything to stop aid or weapons sales to Israel.
But, did they think Trump would do better? Did anybody think Trump gives a damn about some poor brown muslims? Of course not! Everyone should have known that Trump would gleefully help to burn Gaza to the ground to make room for a new casino resort and a 200 foot golden statue of himself. At lease with Harris, she’d be under a lot of pressure to do SOMETHING to help the Palestinians. But, do you think Trump is going to be swayed by protests? Get real.
So what was the plan? What was the point of hoping that Harris would lose? Was it to teach the Dems a “lesson” so that in 4 years they would get back into office and actually help Gaza?
WTF?!? There are two GIGANTIC flaws with this “plan”.
Project 2025 made it clear that if Trump won, the US would never see a free and fair election ever again. So even if the “lesson” was learned, it wouldn’t matter.
Even if the Dems DID somehow win in 2028, what would they be able to do after 4 YEARS of genocide? Gaza (and possibly the West Bank) would be completely destroyed by then.
Great friggin plan, genius!!
The problem is not with Dems. It’s with organizations like AIPAC, who will spend millions of dollars to unseat any Democrat who dares to suggests that we should cut off Israel. (just look what happened to Cori Bush in Missouri’s 1st district). US politicians are scared shitless of these groups, and of being called anti-semites for disallowing Israel.
So, to get back to the original point … If it does come down to Newsom and Trump/Vance in 2028, I will be sad. But I will vote Newsom, because at least I know he isn’t going to declare that all trans people are sex criminals, round them up, and send them to “re-education” camps for “treatment”. Or, something even worse.
That is what these fascist will do if they have the power do it. And they are doing everything they can to wear down our constitutional rights in order to do it.
So, don’t be stupid. Don’t vote (or non-vote) for the worst possible outcome. Because you are going to absolutely destroy people’s lives. Including your own.
What evidence do you have for that? He’s been speed running transphobia. This is what every trans person is shouting to the rafters about, but folks like you refuse to listen. That’s what people thought about Labor in UK, but then they went to enact the most transphobic policies in all of Western Europe.
Transphobia follows a very very predictable path. You start by compromising on sports, an issue that conservatives chose precisely because it seems so minor. But by giving in to them, you’re giving in to the core principle - that trans people are somehow dangerous and that it’s OK to restrict our rights in order to “protect” other people. And once you go down that path, there’s no stopping it. There is no scientifically valid reason for restricting trans people from sports; it’s purely about conservatives being disgusted about trans people existing. And once you’ve given in to the bigots on one form of irrational bigotry, you just keep falling further and further.
Every state that has passed sports bans has also gone on to pass or consider bathroom bans, restrictions on care for minors and adults, ID restrictions, and a host of other vile policies. And each step you take down the road to Hell, the easier the next one becomes. By passing a sports ban, you are stating you believe trans people to be dangerous people that need laws targeting our existence. And once you do that, even once, you are on the road to Hell.
Find a place where I said that. You can’t, because you just made it up. I am a trans person living in America in fear because of how Trump’s transphobia has affected my life. I’m not going to leave the country in the next 3 years unless it’s permanently, because I might lose my passport. My access to medication is in peril. I have spoken about all these things extensively. Demanding that be the subject of a post about Gavin Newsom is ridiculous and derailing from the fact that Newsom’s transphobia is also unacceptable.
Cool story, irrelevant since I both live in a blue state and voted.
If it’s super important to have trans people not bring up Newsom’s transphobia, there is one and only one way to solve it: put pressure on him now to not abandon us.