I agree! I so agree. But, and here’s the rub, I’ll vote for him even if he doesn’t change his position. Because he is not the existential threat posed by the GOP.
You refuse to acknowledge my underlying point, that although Newsom (Democrat party by extension) is a threat, Trump and the GOP will / actively ARE displacing minorities (including trans).
But go on, continue attacking the less-worse outcome. Hope that helps when ICE comes knocking.
Or how about we just tell Newsom to go fuck himself and nominate a Democrat who isn’t a transphobic piece of human garbage?
Look, you can ignore the words that trans people are trying to tell you. But trans folks and their allies are not going to vote for an openly transphobic Democratic candidate. You lost in 2024 because you refused to listen to members of your base saying that there are some red lines you can’t cross. You want to try that play again, see how it works again?
Democrats are only five years behind Republicans. Newsom is Republican from five years ago. 2 years into his first term, he will be just as bad as Trump is now. He’s not going to reverse any of the bigoted policies of the Trump administration.
Frankly, if the majority aren’t willing to stand up to protect trans folks, then you all can burn with us. If I’m going to the camps regardless of which party wins, I’ll happily watch the rest of you descend into utter ruin. You want to abandon minority groups? Then you deserve whatever karma brings your way.
With that attitude, writ large across different minorites (with competing values), we are condemned to suffer under the boot.
It is interesting to note that you have projected certain perspectives (e.g. abandoning trans) into my position. These words are not found, nor implied, in anything I’ve stated.
I will continue to rail against authoritarianism and fascism. You may blame me as much as you wish, and I hope you find some measure of fulfillment.
or you could also wish to have another candidate that isn’t a complete non starter. but THREE YEARS BEFORE VOTEING you are all ready to damn progressives and lqbtq peoples. that they are going to have to sacrifice for the greater good, for no reason. there isn’t even any official talk he will be chosen, and RIGHT THE FUCK NOW is the time for peoples voice to be heard.
and my voice is saying, if newsome is the DNC nominee… i. will. not. vote. democrat.
You refuse to acknowledge my underlying point, that although Newsom (Democrat party by extension) is a threat, Trump and the GOP will / actively ARE displacing minorities (including trans).
But go on, continue attacking the less-worse outcome. Hope that helps when ICE comes knocking.
Cool, not sure what you want me to do with that information. I don’t think it was ever in question whether you or any other liberal who is offended by trans people demanding Newsom drop the transphobia would ultimately support him, or any other candidate with his policies, no matter what.
The question is if other voters will. If you don’t think it will change anything, then criticizing his transphobia won’t matter. If you think it will affect who votes for him, then you better start ringing his phone off the hook about it and you better start quick, because the days of trans people being quiet about it are gone. If you want to be the party of trans rights that means you also have to listen to trans people, not just use us as a decoration.
I agree! I so agree. But, and here’s the rub, I’ll vote for him even if he doesn’t change his position. Because he is not the existential threat posed by the GOP.
He is an existential threat. Newsom has opposed and vetoed bills advancing trans rights. This isn’t just rhetoric.
https://outinstl.com/republican-commentator-joey-mannarino-calls-for-all-trans-people-in-the-u-s-to-be-detained-and-studied/
Just saw this on Lemmy. I didn’t even need to scroll. Please, keep telling me that Democrat are the worst choice.
not what they said and you fucking know that. newsome is the worse choice the democrats could make
Not the worst but I hear your point
What’s your point? Democrats are just five years behind Republicans on the transphobia rot.
Opinion without merit. Dismissed just as easily.
You refuse to acknowledge my underlying point, that although Newsom (Democrat party by extension) is a threat, Trump and the GOP will / actively ARE displacing minorities (including trans).
But go on, continue attacking the less-worse outcome. Hope that helps when ICE comes knocking.
Or how about we just tell Newsom to go fuck himself and nominate a Democrat who isn’t a transphobic piece of human garbage?
Look, you can ignore the words that trans people are trying to tell you. But trans folks and their allies are not going to vote for an openly transphobic Democratic candidate. You lost in 2024 because you refused to listen to members of your base saying that there are some red lines you can’t cross. You want to try that play again, see how it works again?
Democrats are only five years behind Republicans. Newsom is Republican from five years ago. 2 years into his first term, he will be just as bad as Trump is now. He’s not going to reverse any of the bigoted policies of the Trump administration.
Frankly, if the majority aren’t willing to stand up to protect trans folks, then you all can burn with us. If I’m going to the camps regardless of which party wins, I’ll happily watch the rest of you descend into utter ruin. You want to abandon minority groups? Then you deserve whatever karma brings your way.
With that attitude, writ large across different minorites (with competing values), we are condemned to suffer under the boot.
It is interesting to note that you have projected certain perspectives (e.g. abandoning trans) into my position. These words are not found, nor implied, in anything I’ve stated.
I will continue to rail against authoritarianism and fascism. You may blame me as much as you wish, and I hope you find some measure of fulfillment.
or you could also wish to have another candidate that isn’t a complete non starter. but THREE YEARS BEFORE VOTEING you are all ready to damn progressives and lqbtq peoples. that they are going to have to sacrifice for the greater good, for no reason. there isn’t even any official talk he will be chosen, and RIGHT THE FUCK NOW is the time for peoples voice to be heard.
and my voice is saying, if newsome is the DNC nominee… i. will. not. vote. democrat.
Fair play, thanks for clarifying.
So you’ll vote for him if he keeps the Republican talking points, got it. You don’t care what they stand for, but the party they’re with.
https://outinstl.com/republican-commentator-joey-mannarino-calls-for-all-trans-people-in-the-u-s-to-be-detained-and-studied/
Just saw this on Lemmy. I didn’t even need to scroll. Please, keep telling me that Democrat are the worst choice.
You refuse to acknowledge my underlying point, that although Newsom (Democrat party by extension) is a threat, Trump and the GOP will / actively ARE displacing minorities (including trans).
But go on, continue attacking the less-worse outcome. Hope that helps when ICE comes knocking.
The ICE Harris wanted to keep? Sure.
Cool, not sure what you want me to do with that information. I don’t think it was ever in question whether you or any other liberal who is offended by trans people demanding Newsom drop the transphobia would ultimately support him, or any other candidate with his policies, no matter what.
The question is if other voters will. If you don’t think it will change anything, then criticizing his transphobia won’t matter. If you think it will affect who votes for him, then you better start ringing his phone off the hook about it and you better start quick, because the days of trans people being quiet about it are gone. If you want to be the party of trans rights that means you also have to listen to trans people, not just use us as a decoration.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/contact/
Fair play, I agree with your statements. Thanks for taking the time.
Thank you for listening. As you might imagine, this is extremely stressful.