Again, that strategy hurts you more than it leverages them. It’s like burning down your house because it’s the only leverage you have over your mortgage lender: they lose one asset in their portfolio of thousands(which will be largely reimbursed by insurance anyway), you become homeless.
except that argument is at the same time, ‘progressives not having confidence in their chosen candidate cost democrats the election’, so no it’s not a single person choosing not to vote, it’s a critical mass choosing not to vote.
this was not a surprise, this was a calculated move on their part that they could bilk one more peice of shit canidate, under the vote blue no matter who mantra,
also you sacrifice the future for stability now. i see that as the same greed that dammed us to this position by the previous generation. you argue for the continuation of the forever ratchet rightward, and yet we are in a position where the government is talking about selectively honoring people’s rights.
i would also like to point out that you are currently arguing against people conditionally withholding their vote… 2.5 years from a main election, in which the democratic party is preparing Gavin Newsome as their presidential front runner….
if there was ever a time you SHOULD be arguing with me instead of against me it’s right now. unless you want to wait until after the primary? in which i am guessing you would proudly spout “vote blue no matter who”
And Gavin Newsom, while terrible in his own way, will certainly be objectively better on every metric than whoever the GOP puts up. Now that I did not say good, I said better. Still bad, just lesser evil.
The potential for maybe good tomorrow is not worth the suffering that the GOP is causing today. I will not sacrifice LGBT, immigrants, and protesters for that high risk gamble.
If we don’t have a progressive with the support to win, then damn right I’m voting blue-no-matter-who. Vote in your primaries, and maybe blue will be someone I feel good voting for, instead of begrudgingly for damage control. But whoever it is, it’s better than fascism.
You’re arguing for bad, counterproductive strategy. If you’re dissatisfied with the DNC, tell them, not me. I don’t set DNC policy.
seems we got the suffering the GOP is causing today from following the vote blue no matter who… right now.
also, we have and had progressive canidates, who were crushed by the establishment DNC, and the recent rise of progressives into power recently is showing just how hard the dnc establishment is fighting against them. if we get to the elections and there is no viable candidate, it was not for lack of people willing and capable of doing it, but a systemic power grab. all the more reason for the DNC to fail.
i can’t wait to see how you magicaly convince me and all the others who actully balked at Harris’s defence of genocide and recomitment to the rich buyers of the DNC in spite of their voter base to vote blue no matter who, using tyrany in one hand and unwarented blame in the other
seems we got the suffering the GOP is causing today from following the vote blue no matter who… right now.
Objectively false. We got that because people refused blue no matter who. You’re either straight up lying, or you legitimately don’t know how our electoral system works.
convince me and all the others who actully balked at Harris’s defence of genocide
And how’s that genocide going now? Did balking at Harris stop the genocide, or make it worse?
Your strategy didn’t work in 2016, didn’t work in 2020, and by your own admission it didn’t work in 2024 either. How many times are you going to keep doing the same thing with a 0% chance of success? We just have to keep diving further into fascism because you falsely believe that will send a message to the DNC? Absolutely asinine.
Again, that strategy hurts you more than it leverages them. It’s like burning down your house because it’s the only leverage you have over your mortgage lender: they lose one asset in their portfolio of thousands(which will be largely reimbursed by insurance anyway), you become homeless.
The way to leverage your vote is in the primary.
except that argument is at the same time, ‘progressives not having confidence in their chosen candidate cost democrats the election’, so no it’s not a single person choosing not to vote, it’s a critical mass choosing not to vote.
this was not a surprise, this was a calculated move on their part that they could bilk one more peice of shit canidate, under the vote blue no matter who mantra,
also you sacrifice the future for stability now. i see that as the same greed that dammed us to this position by the previous generation. you argue for the continuation of the forever ratchet rightward, and yet we are in a position where the government is talking about selectively honoring people’s rights.
i would also like to point out that you are currently arguing against people conditionally withholding their vote… 2.5 years from a main election, in which the democratic party is preparing Gavin Newsome as their presidential front runner….
if there was ever a time you SHOULD be arguing with me instead of against me it’s right now. unless you want to wait until after the primary? in which i am guessing you would proudly spout “vote blue no matter who”
And Gavin Newsom, while terrible in his own way, will certainly be objectively better on every metric than whoever the GOP puts up. Now that I did not say good, I said better. Still bad, just lesser evil.
The potential for maybe good tomorrow is not worth the suffering that the GOP is causing today. I will not sacrifice LGBT, immigrants, and protesters for that high risk gamble.
If we don’t have a progressive with the support to win, then damn right I’m voting blue-no-matter-who. Vote in your primaries, and maybe blue will be someone I feel good voting for, instead of begrudgingly for damage control. But whoever it is, it’s better than fascism.
You’re arguing for bad, counterproductive strategy. If you’re dissatisfied with the DNC, tell them, not me. I don’t set DNC policy.
seems we got the suffering the GOP is causing today from following the vote blue no matter who… right now.
also, we have and had progressive canidates, who were crushed by the establishment DNC, and the recent rise of progressives into power recently is showing just how hard the dnc establishment is fighting against them. if we get to the elections and there is no viable candidate, it was not for lack of people willing and capable of doing it, but a systemic power grab. all the more reason for the DNC to fail.
i can’t wait to see how you magicaly convince me and all the others who actully balked at Harris’s defence of genocide and recomitment to the rich buyers of the DNC in spite of their voter base to vote blue no matter who, using tyrany in one hand and unwarented blame in the other
Objectively false. We got that because people refused blue no matter who. You’re either straight up lying, or you legitimately don’t know how our electoral system works.
And how’s that genocide going now? Did balking at Harris stop the genocide, or make it worse?
Your strategy didn’t work in 2016, didn’t work in 2020, and by your own admission it didn’t work in 2024 either. How many times are you going to keep doing the same thing with a 0% chance of success? We just have to keep diving further into fascism because you falsely believe that will send a message to the DNC? Absolutely asinine.