That’s still LEAGUES better than the genocidal fascists of the GOP.
Maybe if you want progressive reforms, stop bitching and vote for progressives in the primaries. Not that it’ll matter now since millions let the fascists win so we won’t have any elections any more.
And the dems aren’t genocidal? Give me a break. People forget the genocide started and was aided by Biden. Before him people forget that all presidents (including Obama) had the same foreign policy of bombing brown people.
Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists for not voting a genocide supporter out of principle instead of the establishment for running Ms. “We will build the deadliest armed forces in the world during an ongoing genocide that I support”.
Bernie was the compromise, and the dem establishment essentially antidemocratically couped him out. Now the dems deal with the consequences: they’d rather see Trump in office than a progressive (look at the collabbing between dems and reps in derailing Mamdani).
Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists for not voting a genocide supporter out of principle instead of the establishment for running Ms. “We will build the deadliest armed forces in the world during an ongoing genocide that I support”.
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Get it through your thick fucking skull that you people chose the PRO-GENOCIDE option.
No one should ever take you people seriously ever again. We have MORE GENOCIDE NOW because KAMALA LOST AND TRUMP WON.
Wanna know how we’d have ended up with less genocide?
LEFTIST COULD’VE VOTED FOR KAMALA AND MADE HER WIN.
You have more police violence in the US, not more genocide. There is no genocide in the US going on unless you count 20% of black males going to prison at some point in their lives, which is happening since many administrations ago and hasn’t really changed that much since Trump. You had the highest number of deportations during Obama, didn’t you?
Not everything we dislike about the US political system is genocide, I want to abolish the USA to be clear, but again: the fault of dems not being elected is Democratic elites who refuse to bring anything remotely palatable to the table. It was not “sabotage” that ruined the Dems chances of winning unless by sabotage you mean the internal one destroying every progressive candidate.
I didn’t choose shit and I didn’t sabotage shit, I’m a Spaniard in Spain without desire or right to vote in your country, that’s why it’s flagrantly obvious to me that choosing the least appealing possible candidate will result in elections being lost.
Leftists couldn’t have voted for Kamala because they didn’t vote for Kamala, it is the dems who lost the elections lmao
Total normal US police brutality. Nothing to see here. /s
Are you intentionally ignoring reality or do you frequently try to talk with people about important issues you clearly have no understanding or context to?
My dude, I want you to ask yourself, really ask yourself, were the rights of immigrants more compromised last year, or this year?
Did they have more of a legal framework to rely on to ensure their own safety and safety for their loved ones this year or last year?
We’re facilities being built en masse specifically for an unparalleled mass deportation campaign (which is how the Holocaust started BTW) last year or did that start this year?
Ask yourself, was the active president trying to normalize sending the military to confront protestors last year or this year?
Shit, don’t just ask yourself, ask immigrants. Ask scholars who specialize in the history of genocide.
You’re too hyper-focused on simple raw data while conveniently ignoring the context of the reality behind it, and your data isn’t even up to date for the current year who’s data would most be important to have for this conversation.
Not to mention the very likely discrepancy that people detained by ICE and sent to concentration camps are likely not gonna show up on data talking specifically about US prisons for US crimes. Especially when you consider THE VAST MAJORITY THAT ICE HAS KIDNAPPED HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD:https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-ice-immigration-arrest-data-1.7584212
Why tf would they show up on that data?
Also, do you genuinely believe ICE when they report back that their victims are alive and ok, when 1.2k ARE FUCKING MISSING FROM ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ? Which we only know about because it was closed down for environmental regulations.
I commend your care about the minorities in the US, I’m just trying to show that this isn’t an exclusive Trump issue, the US system literally puts 1 in 5 black men through the prison system throughout their lives. I’m not endorsing Trump, I’m not endorsing ICE, both are fascist organizations. It’s just that the entire US apparatus is fascist and now it’s strengthening its repression inwards, which has USians worried. As a non-USian, it’s sad to see, but it’s what Democrats enabled by not doing literally anything during their rule and putting forth an unelectable pro-genocide candidate talking of fascist points such as the infamous “I will ensure that the USA has the most lethal armed forces in the world” to which the crowd in the DNC responded “USA, USA, USA”. The way to fight fascists historically isn’t to elect less fascist right wing, not even social democrats, but to organize in communist and anarchist unions, parties and organizations.
The dems dropped the ball in the 2024 election, by pretending Biden was sharp as a tack and gaslighting us about his mental health until they couldn’t hide it anymore during that disastrous debate, and since they lied about him so long, they replaced him with someone who flopped HARD in 2020 and lost the election in 2024.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and watched as the DNC did everything they could to destroy him and install a good little establishment guy like Biden.
When Trump’s a psychopath and the opposition keeps gaslighting us about the mental health of the president so long that they have no choice but to hand pick a replacement because it’s too late for a primary, a lot of people are just going to say “fuck it” and not vote.
They’re still being delusional and refusing to face facts. Hopefully they can learn from this.
Everyone except the DNC acknowledges where they fucked up.
Its the millions of leftist voters who are in a desperate need of self reflection for how they fucked up by boycotting the election.
Millions of marginalized peoples’ loves were at stake with the 2024 election, both domestically and abroad. People who leftists are supposed to care about, advocate for, and pico the best VIABLE option for, which was Kamala.
Boycotting Kamala wasn’t “sticking it to the Dems”. It was deatroying the future and lives of the millions of marginalized people the boycotting left abandoned to fascism.
Its extremely easy for those in pirivelge, be it financial, racial, sex, gender, etc, to look at Kamala by herself and proclaim she was a shitty candidate. She was, objectively.
But 2024 wasn’t about Kamala, it was about millions of people who now have ICE and the military dissapearing them, and canceling elections nation wide in 2026 and on.
We cannot keep pretending everything that’s happening was an unknown. We were warning people about P2025 for over a year, but self righteous egomaniacal leftists either didn’t listen, didn’t believe it, or simply don’t actually give a fuck about the marginalized people now being sent to concentration camps.
The DNC needed to do a lot better to challenge Trump and they failed miserably. They propped up a guy who could barely form a coherent sentence. If they really, seriously believed Donald Trump was the existential threat to this country that he totally is, they should have been up front about Biden’s mental health in time to hold a real primary.
Kamala Harris didn’t lose because she is a woman of color. She lost because (A) she’s a terrible candidate who can’t answer questions consistently, as also seen when she ran in 2020, and (B) people felt like they were lied to by the Dems so long that they lost faith in the entire political process and didn’t show up to vote. To act like Trump lied and the DNC told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is just plain wrong. The truth is, in a democracy, nobody is owed any votes, ever, and you can’t just blame the citizens.
Yeah I voted for genocide. However, I voted for less genocide than we got from the right. I didn’t have a choice. I normally vote left, and if I took away my vote, that would mean the balance of US votes would shift right by a vote. This means that by not voting, I’d effectively be voting right. Doesn’t matter what my intentions were, the outcome was a shift towards the right, which would (and did) result in more genocide than if I had voted left. It’s not as bad as flipping my left vote to a right vote, which would effectively shift the balance right by 2 votes, but is still worse than voting for the less of two evils now, and continuing to vote in local elections and other, non-primary elections for much more progressive candidates so that I may someday not have to vote for the lesser of two evils in the future.
I understand that this is just playing the game they want us to play. I do get that. But if enough people were like me and voted for progressive candidates in all elections, even those outside of the primary, there wouldn’t be any game to play, the only available candidates on the left would be progressive. Too many people throw away their votes in smaller elections, which makes the primary election feel not worth it, because the candidate doesn’t line up with what you believe in. No shit, you didn’t vote in smaller elections, so why would someone with your same views end up as a candidate?
The dems are entirely lame while in office.
That’s still LEAGUES better than the genocidal fascists of the GOP.
Maybe if you want progressive reforms, stop bitching and vote for progressives in the primaries. Not that it’ll matter now since millions let the fascists win so we won’t have any elections any more.
And the dems aren’t genocidal? Give me a break. People forget the genocide started and was aided by Biden. Before him people forget that all presidents (including Obama) had the same foreign policy of bombing brown people.
Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists for not voting a genocide supporter out of principle instead of the establishment for running Ms. “We will build the deadliest armed forces in the world during an ongoing genocide that I support”.
Bernie was the compromise, and the dem establishment essentially antidemocratically couped him out. Now the dems deal with the consequences: they’d rather see Trump in office than a progressive (look at the collabbing between dems and reps in derailing Mamdani).
I know we’re just throwing numbers around here but wasn’t the margin like 1%?
The difference of dem voters between last and previous elections is surely higher than that.
TRUMP IS ACTIVELY COMMITTING MORE GENOCIDE AND ON US SOIL.
BOYCOTTNG VOTING BLUE OBJECTIVELY ENABLED MORE FUCKING GENOCIDE
Get it through your thick fucking skull that you people chose the PRO-GENOCIDE option.
No one should ever take you people seriously ever again. We have MORE GENOCIDE NOW because KAMALA LOST AND TRUMP WON.
Wanna know how we’d have ended up with less genocide?
LEFTIST COULD’VE VOTED FOR KAMALA AND MADE HER WIN.
You have more police violence in the US, not more genocide. There is no genocide in the US going on unless you count 20% of black males going to prison at some point in their lives, which is happening since many administrations ago and hasn’t really changed that much since Trump. You had the highest number of deportations during Obama, didn’t you?
Not everything we dislike about the US political system is genocide, I want to abolish the USA to be clear, but again: the fault of dems not being elected is Democratic elites who refuse to bring anything remotely palatable to the table. It was not “sabotage” that ruined the Dems chances of winning unless by sabotage you mean the internal one destroying every progressive candidate.
I didn’t choose shit and I didn’t sabotage shit, I’m a Spaniard in Spain without desire or right to vote in your country, that’s why it’s flagrantly obvious to me that choosing the least appealing possible candidate will result in elections being lost.
Leftists couldn’t have voted for Kamala because they didn’t vote for Kamala, it is the dems who lost the elections lmao
Right, it’s just police violence that the US is
Building concentration camps: https://www.newsweek.com/ice-immigrant-detention-expansion-announced-map-2037263
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/08/29/michigan-ice-georgia-louisiana-prison
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/04/nx-s1-5417980/private-prisons-and-local-jails-are-ramping-up-as-ice-detention-exceeds-capacity
Rounding up and dissapearing thousands:
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-04-10/about-90-of-migrants-sent-to-el-salvador-lacked-u-s-criminal-record
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/9/25/alligator_alcatraz
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/10/nx-s1-5428568/ice-raids-la-fashion-district-immigration
https://apnews.com/article/trump-south-sudan-djibouti-deport-supreme-court-50f9162cff680b5c8729873e11d514e9
Total normal US police brutality. Nothing to see here. /s
Are you intentionally ignoring reality or do you frequently try to talk with people about important issues you clearly have no understanding or context to?
Quick google search:
You can bring isolated instances as much as you want, macro data points to this being a bipartisan issue and nothing having fundamentally changed.
This is not an endorsement of Trump, this is a blanket condemnation of the entire US government apparatus, which should be entirely dissolved.
My dude, ICE just got a budget that dwarfs the marines specifically to become Trump’s Gestapo and genocide force: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-funding-world-militaries-b2790466.html
And “isolated incidents”?
My dude, I want you to ask yourself, really ask yourself, were the rights of immigrants more compromised last year, or this year?
Did they have more of a legal framework to rely on to ensure their own safety and safety for their loved ones this year or last year?
We’re facilities being built en masse specifically for an unparalleled mass deportation campaign (which is how the Holocaust started BTW) last year or did that start this year?
Ask yourself, was the active president trying to normalize sending the military to confront protestors last year or this year?
Shit, don’t just ask yourself, ask immigrants. Ask scholars who specialize in the history of genocide.
You’re too hyper-focused on simple raw data while conveniently ignoring the context of the reality behind it, and your data isn’t even up to date for the current year who’s data would most be important to have for this conversation.
Not to mention the very likely discrepancy that people detained by ICE and sent to concentration camps are likely not gonna show up on data talking specifically about US prisons for US crimes. Especially when you consider THE VAST MAJORITY THAT ICE HAS KIDNAPPED HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-ice-immigration-arrest-data-1.7584212
Why tf would they show up on that data?
Also, do you genuinely believe ICE when they report back that their victims are alive and ok, when 1.2k ARE FUCKING MISSING FROM ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ? Which we only know about because it was closed down for environmental regulations.
I commend your care about the minorities in the US, I’m just trying to show that this isn’t an exclusive Trump issue, the US system literally puts 1 in 5 black men through the prison system throughout their lives. I’m not endorsing Trump, I’m not endorsing ICE, both are fascist organizations. It’s just that the entire US apparatus is fascist and now it’s strengthening its repression inwards, which has USians worried. As a non-USian, it’s sad to see, but it’s what Democrats enabled by not doing literally anything during their rule and putting forth an unelectable pro-genocide candidate talking of fascist points such as the infamous “I will ensure that the USA has the most lethal armed forces in the world” to which the crowd in the DNC responded “USA, USA, USA”. The way to fight fascists historically isn’t to elect less fascist right wing, not even social democrats, but to organize in communist and anarchist unions, parties and organizations.
The dems dropped the ball in the 2024 election, by pretending Biden was sharp as a tack and gaslighting us about his mental health until they couldn’t hide it anymore during that disastrous debate, and since they lied about him so long, they replaced him with someone who flopped HARD in 2020 and lost the election in 2024.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and watched as the DNC did everything they could to destroy him and install a good little establishment guy like Biden.
When Trump’s a psychopath and the opposition keeps gaslighting us about the mental health of the president so long that they have no choice but to hand pick a replacement because it’s too late for a primary, a lot of people are just going to say “fuck it” and not vote.
They’re still being delusional and refusing to face facts. Hopefully they can learn from this.
I get where the DNC fucked up.
Everyone except the DNC acknowledges where they fucked up.
Its the millions of leftist voters who are in a desperate need of self reflection for how they fucked up by boycotting the election.
Millions of marginalized peoples’ loves were at stake with the 2024 election, both domestically and abroad. People who leftists are supposed to care about, advocate for, and pico the best VIABLE option for, which was Kamala.
Boycotting Kamala wasn’t “sticking it to the Dems”. It was deatroying the future and lives of the millions of marginalized people the boycotting left abandoned to fascism.
Its extremely easy for those in pirivelge, be it financial, racial, sex, gender, etc, to look at Kamala by herself and proclaim she was a shitty candidate. She was, objectively.
But 2024 wasn’t about Kamala, it was about millions of people who now have ICE and the military dissapearing them, and canceling elections nation wide in 2026 and on.
We cannot keep pretending everything that’s happening was an unknown. We were warning people about P2025 for over a year, but self righteous egomaniacal leftists either didn’t listen, didn’t believe it, or simply don’t actually give a fuck about the marginalized people now being sent to concentration camps.
The DNC needed to do a lot better to challenge Trump and they failed miserably. They propped up a guy who could barely form a coherent sentence. If they really, seriously believed Donald Trump was the existential threat to this country that he totally is, they should have been up front about Biden’s mental health in time to hold a real primary.
Kamala Harris didn’t lose because she is a woman of color. She lost because (A) she’s a terrible candidate who can’t answer questions consistently, as also seen when she ran in 2020, and (B) people felt like they were lied to by the Dems so long that they lost faith in the entire political process and didn’t show up to vote. To act like Trump lied and the DNC told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is just plain wrong. The truth is, in a democracy, nobody is owed any votes, ever, and you can’t just blame the citizens.
Hi, we didn’t vote for Kamala because she’s a genocidal freak. You’re the one who didn’t care about genocide. Bye. :)
So you enabled the even more genocidal freak to take power.
Congratulations, dumbass.
You voted for genocide.
Yeah I voted for genocide. However, I voted for less genocide than we got from the right. I didn’t have a choice. I normally vote left, and if I took away my vote, that would mean the balance of US votes would shift right by a vote. This means that by not voting, I’d effectively be voting right. Doesn’t matter what my intentions were, the outcome was a shift towards the right, which would (and did) result in more genocide than if I had voted left. It’s not as bad as flipping my left vote to a right vote, which would effectively shift the balance right by 2 votes, but is still worse than voting for the less of two evils now, and continuing to vote in local elections and other, non-primary elections for much more progressive candidates so that I may someday not have to vote for the lesser of two evils in the future.
I understand that this is just playing the game they want us to play. I do get that. But if enough people were like me and voted for progressive candidates in all elections, even those outside of the primary, there wouldn’t be any game to play, the only available candidates on the left would be progressive. Too many people throw away their votes in smaller elections, which makes the primary election feel not worth it, because the candidate doesn’t line up with what you believe in. No shit, you didn’t vote in smaller elections, so why would someone with your same views end up as a candidate?
It’s nice to see my seething rage brought to bear in your comments.