• pedz@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    They call it collateral damage. Or is it casualties?! A few hundred thousand in Iraq. Plus a few tens of thousand in Afghanistan. And maybe some torture here and there.

    And I doubt this person is old enough to have fought literal fascists.

    All heroes for participating in the glorious defence of capitalism democracy.

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      It becomes a double standard when you think about the literal Nazi generals pretty quick.

      These people thought they are saving the world and were usually one of the “sacrifices” by the actual politicians doing all the bloodshed.

      They risked their lives and went through hard training just to “protect this country” too.

      Yet a bunch of medals and being in the army tells me they aren’t clueless and had an idea of what politicians are actually doing. A good chunk of them even today see it as “just a job I was doing.”

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        These people thought they are saving the world and were usually one of the “sacrifices” by the actual politicians doing all the bloodshed…

        In reference to the NAZI generals… They weren’t the sacrificial pawns in the game so much as the brownshirts were.

        Brownshirts that today have their parallels in the newly hired ICE agents.

        Those agents are thinking they have qualified immunity - but that is only in the case where they do NOT violate any constitutional Amendments when they’re arresting people.

        Then they’re open to prosecution… and once the current Administration is no longer in power, (I think the healthcare subsidies being killed will be the tipping point, voters gonna get het up when memaw and pawpaw lose their lives because they couldn’t afford the doctor anymore…) the snap-back to see the worst of them thrown in jail, is going to be firece.

        No way, no how will any politician step in to help them.

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      2 days ago

      Yeah Americans love making up words to justify their actions to themselves.

      “Oh no I didn’t drone strike that wedding and kill that 4 year old girl, that was collateral damage from me killing the super bad guy. I’m a hero!”

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          Yeah, he should be waterboarded by one of your heroes torturing America’s ennemies in Guantanamo Bay, then he would have more respect.

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            2 days ago

            You are too emotional for social media. Go outside and touch grass. Talking point parrots need crackers sometime, too.

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              I go touch grass regularly. Actually I went bike touring and camping this very week. And the week before. Want some pictures?

              And no. Just like life, I’m gonna stay here, be a thorn, and point out the obvious to the boot lickers. Otherwise I would have killed myself a long time ago.

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                I guess the bigger question is why the generalized rage?

                Pivots can and do happen in societies and let’s be honest here… 99% of the rage you have at prior political injustice comes - correctly - at the feet of capitalism.

                That same capitalism that brought you the ability to buy and own a bike, a tent, and sleeping bag to use for camping, and all the amenities you are using right now - including the computer/phone and the internet you and I are on at this very instant.

                So, let’s lose the notion that you yourself are not complicit in the support of those atrocities, as you are benefiting from them just like the rest of us.

                You can get some land, move off the grid and use only what you grow/make for yourself… but you won’t like it.