• Tom Arrr@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      Do you mean the basic model? If so, it means everybody has access to free medical. Although, in order to include dental earlier, it would need to be restricted at first on need.

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        2 hours ago

        Yeah I was curious as to what reforms you would propose. We already have a system that purports to have universal medical care, but it’s only true in limited ways. There are many avenues to free medical care, but it’s still a for-profit system under the hood (for non-hospital care, which includes seeing specialists).

        There are government run parts of the system, like emergency hospital which runs very well, but outside those, the gap fees are getting larger, and the “elective” surgery system where people on the public queue wait months for life altering surgery is an embarrassment.

        I’m proposing we end the subsidy model, make all health care publically provided, not just some, everyone goes through the same system, not two tiers for those who can afford it. This is the only way there is extremely strong incentive for everyone to want healthcare to be extremely good.

        Although, in order to include dental earlier, it would need to be restricted at first on need.

        Why though? I’m guessing hospital care is vastly more expensive than getting a check up at the dentist. The peak body of dentists rail against dental into Medicare because it’ll dampen their profits. Preventative dental is cheaper than emergency dental.

        We should pay medical employees actually doing the work more, and give practice owners nothing.

        The “free market” is a stupid way to run an essential service. Thank god ours at least is regulated decently (but, not enough)

        People need to look at the last 40-50 years and realise privatisation has not worked, it’s time to roll back the clock on government ownership and running of essential service.

        We have a say over the government’s decisions, not private companies (outside regulation and legislation). Why are people so allergic to government ownership (it’s propaganda, if we’re being honest)

        Profit motive needs to be taken out of healthcare and elder care yesterday.

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          20 minutes ago

          Sure, universal health would be great, but, we are a very conservative country, the best we can hope for in reality is a subsidy model that doesn’t subsidise private. We need to unwind the changes of the past 2 decades while also expanding it.

          Profit itself isn’t the issue imo, profit above all is. We have to get back to making people the priority, not profits.