Ofcom — driven by the letter of British law that they are bound to follow, but still Ofcom — are quietly making Britain look (a) very silly and (b) as if we haven’t yet shucked-off the Americ…
Does the UK think they have jurisdiction over my server just because some twat from the UK visits my site? If so, there’s a reason why we fought a war nearly 250 years ago that said that a stupid fucking idea. Colonialism is a dead ideology
Does the UK think they have jurisdiction over my server just because some twat from the UK visits my site?
Yes. You are providing services to the UK users and deriving income from these services.
If so, there’s a reason why we fought a war nearly 250 years ago
Get used to it. Apple get fined by the EU multiple times, Microsoft and Google also, from memory, lost some cases in the EU despite lack of physical presence.
Apple also sells a physical product in the UK. Microsoft and Apple both sell a virtual service/product in the UK. 4chan only gets revenue from you looking at posters and clicking those posters on their website.
I assure you this is what will happen. If 4chan won’t pay the fine, they will be blocked in the UK by the Internet service providers (as this is the next step in the process). They will then see that non compliance with Ofcom decision is significantly more expensive than compliance.
You’re deluded if you think the UK is going to get a cent from 4chan. The most they can do is direc their ISPs to block 4chan IPs but that wont stop people from tunneling to the site. Thats all they have the legal jurisdiction to do like it or not
4chan will probably end up paying the fine and engaging immediately when it is blocked in the UK as it will result in their top line getting hit. There is also an option of seizing the assets belonging to the company (not necessarily just in the the UK although probably not in the USA). You are deluded if you think otherwise.
It will end up the same as tech giants fines. They will shout, moan and pay.
I especially like this hysterical statement:
The statement added the US federal authorities had been “briefed” on the matter, adding that the Ofcom investigation was part of an “illegal campaign of harassment against American technology firms”.
Why would 4chan pay the fine? Its not like 4chan will take all that much of a hit because people can tunnel out and still participate in however 4chan monetizes if they really wanted to. Also lmao seize assets. 4chan has no assets in the UK to seize afaik.
How are they going to collect? Extradite to pay a fine? No theyre just going to block it and be done. The UK will never see one penny from 4chan imo, no mayter how much they beg
It’s not ‘inconvenience at best’. The vast majority of people won’t use a VPN, so it will be a loss of revenue. Even if you are willing to pay for a VPN (or daft enough to use a free one), it’s an inconvenience as using a VPN can have side effects, such as other things getting blocked unexpectedly, or cause websites to redirect you to the local version in the country of your VPN server.
Does the UK think they have jurisdiction over my server just because some twat from the UK visits my site? If so, there’s a reason why we fought a war nearly 250 years ago that said that a stupid fucking idea. Colonialism is a dead ideology
Yes. You are providing services to the UK users and deriving income from these services.
Get used to it. Apple get fined by the EU multiple times, Microsoft and Google also, from memory, lost some cases in the EU despite lack of physical presence.
Apple also sells a physical product in the UK. Microsoft and Apple both sell a virtual service/product in the UK. 4chan only gets revenue from you looking at posters and clicking those posters on their website.
UK can get fucking bent. Come and take it.
I assure you this is what will happen. If 4chan won’t pay the fine, they will be blocked in the UK by the Internet service providers (as this is the next step in the process). They will then see that non compliance with Ofcom decision is significantly more expensive than compliance.
You’re deluded if you think the UK is going to get a cent from 4chan. The most they can do is direc their ISPs to block 4chan IPs but that wont stop people from tunneling to the site. Thats all they have the legal jurisdiction to do like it or not
4chan will probably end up paying the fine and engaging immediately when it is blocked in the UK as it will result in their top line getting hit. There is also an option of seizing the assets belonging to the company (not necessarily just in the the UK although probably not in the USA). You are deluded if you think otherwise.
It will end up the same as tech giants fines. They will shout, moan and pay.
I especially like this hysterical statement:
😂😂😂
How much money do you think 4chan gets from the UK? I promise it’s not much.
Why would 4chan pay the fine? Its not like 4chan will take all that much of a hit because people can tunnel out and still participate in however 4chan monetizes if they really wanted to. Also lmao seize assets. 4chan has no assets in the UK to seize afaik.
How are they going to collect? Extradite to pay a fine? No theyre just going to block it and be done. The UK will never see one penny from 4chan imo, no mayter how much they beg
This is the only real solution, and it’s a inconvenient one at best to surfers thanks to solutions like VPN.
Can’t stop the signal
It’s not ‘inconvenience at best’. The vast majority of people won’t use a VPN, so it will be a loss of revenue. Even if you are willing to pay for a VPN (or daft enough to use a free one), it’s an inconvenience as using a VPN can have side effects, such as other things getting blocked unexpectedly, or cause websites to redirect you to the local version in the country of your VPN server.
C’mon, it’s 4chan we’re talking about here. The gambit runs from “yes, that daft” to “good luck, I’m behind 7 proxies”.
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