• njm1314@lemmy.world
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    11 minutes ago

    What is an extraction shooter? The article did not explain, which it really should have.

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    31 minutes ago

    Not a big surprise. The genre is a niche, the hype has been building for years, and Arc Raiders looks like it scratches that itch many players want right now. Especially disillusioned Tarkov and Hunt Showdown players have high hopes for it. Anyone who‘s into multiplayer FPS knows The Finals is the freshest game in it‘s genre in over a decade so the devs have already proven they can make things at least interesting and fresh.

    But again, the genre is a total niche with not much competition as of now. I think that‘s mostly why.

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    7 hours ago

    They must have a decent marketing budget because I’ve seen A LOT of big streamers playing it. It looked ok. not my cup o tea.

    also funny note that the new Call of Duty apparently censors “ARC Raiders” in the in game chat.

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      39 minutes ago

      I doubt they have a huge marketing budget. Perhaps they‘re using it in a clever way but I doubt Nexon bets everything on 0 here when The Finals only did ok. Extraction shooters is a niche that‘s starving for content. Somehow it gained a reputation for being everywhere when in reality there don‘t even exist 5 of them with a decent player size. The shooter genre is huge and people want something that isn‘t just a battle royale for once.

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      4 hours ago

      I fucking hate living in today’s world.

      You can’t even talk about different games while playing certain ones, like what bullshit is that? I really feel like corporations are policing people’s lives nowadays, what with Nintendo being shitty to everyone, CoD not letting you talk about certain other games in-game, YouTube and other social media companies censoring any goddamn word that has even the slightest negative connotations (kill, suicide, pedophile, etc.}

      Like the world just feels so infantilized and people can’t actually be people anymore, like we all need to be told what to do.

      And in the end, I think it could all be explained with the rise of fascism literally everywhere right now. This world and existence fuckin sucks.

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        12 minutes ago

        But then we have the indie devs that constantly praise each other, include in-game references to their inspirations or blog about what blast they’re having while playing a competitors game.

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        4 hours ago

        Those are a few different incentive systems in place. YouTube does what it does to be friendly to advertisers. Call of Duty does what it does because they’re too stupid to realize that censoring mention of your competitors actually draws more attention to them. But you’re here on Lemmy right now, presumably, because you were fed up with something on reddit and decided to move, and you can do the same with which video games you play.

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    9 hours ago

    Can’t wait for the news about it inevitably dropping in players. Followed by news of permanent server shutdown within the next 2 years (I’m being extremely generous.)

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      44 minutes ago

      God forbid people enjoying their little coop adventures. I will never understand this community’s hate boner for everything online. Just stick to your single player stuff and be happy. Why dig trenches for something that doesn‘t affect you?

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        34 minutes ago

        We used to get multiplayer games that weren’t dependent on some server that we don’t control, and now they’ve all turned into this. Then we read about all the layoffs that happened because this model is inherently unsustainable, and we have a giant gap in the medium’s history of games that we used to be able to play but now cannot because the business made a gamble on a type of game that sometimes becomes a money printer.

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      8 hours ago

      To be fair, I told my friends that I thought The Finals would last only 7 months, but it stabilized around a little north of 10k concurrent players, which is probably fewer than the devs were hoping for but enough to keep it going.

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    7 hours ago

    I’ve been looking into this recently because The Algorithm wanted me to (I don’t always do what The Algorithm wants, but sometimes it’s really fucking spot-on so maybe I’m just institutionalized) and I simply don’t see why this is really any different from anything else available.

    Is it really that much better? Is it the same thing just with better execution? As we’ve seen time and again, popular doesn’t always mean good.

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    My buddy keeps trying to get me into shooters. Most are boring as hell with almost zero gameplay innovation from games I played 20 years ago.

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      51 minutes ago

      You should check out Embark Studios’ (ARC Raiders dev) other game, The Finals. Literally the most innovative FPS I’ve ever played, it completely reinvents the competitive shooter genre.

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      The developer behind this game (Embark Studios) is trying to push the genre forward with new gamemodes and approaches to combat design.

      Like the Finals has it’s own unique gamemode (Cashout) that doesn’t really exist anywhere else, and is a ton of fun with the amount of unique encounters you can have throughout the game (with the fully destructible environments with physics allowing you to completely up-end the map layout). There’s no “one answer” to solve a problem, and while mechanical aim and good listening for the enemy players will obviously help you, you’ll need to change your mindset from the shooter status quo because the objectives and combat can flow quite differently.

      Arc Raiders is still in testing, but it’s designed to be an entirely 3rd person extraction shooter with an emphasis on sound design and careful maneuvering and movement (make too much noise, you attract a robot or a human’s attention. Move too slowly, you may be leaving loot behind or losing out on a good position like the high ground). It even features Uncharted style mantling and climbing, which I absolutely adore.

      There is a lot of shooter slop these days, I agree. But these guys are definitely trying to change that.

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      7 hours ago

      Yeah I had some fun with Day-Z and Player Unknown’s Battle Royale, but the repetitive rounds in those sorts of mods got boring to me pretty quickly. Especially the scavenging for gear each time, I just wanted to battle but it feels like work.

      I have the same sort of issue with RTS games where you are in a race to build your base and units, I don’t enjoy speed harvesting and building.

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        6 hours ago

        I am old because, for me, my favorite was battlefield 1942. Had so much fun, and it wasn’t as competitive, which i enjoyed even more.

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    8 hours ago

    The release window for Arc Raiders could not be worse. Right between Battlefield 6 and Tarkov 1.0. Also a few weeks ago Arena Breakout Infinite released, which is also a very competent extraction shooter, that I had lots of fun with before Bf6.

    This activity is a good sign for Arc Raiders, however it’s only a free playtest while the full release will cost 40€. How many of those players enjoying it now will actually cough up this much money for a game in a genre with many failed games before it? Dark and Darker was hugely popular during its last playtest and rapidly declined after the paid (Early Access) release.

    I hope that they’re successful with Arc Raiders. I think the extraction genre is super interesting and needs more healthy choices that are not Tarkov (which has so many problems of its own).

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      27 minutes ago

      I mean Fortnite‘s release window couldn‘t have been worse and it defined the entire genre going forward. In the end people will stick with what‘s best and it could be any of those three and more. I think there is something poetic about Embark going head to head with Battlefield 6 as if to prove themselves. Arc Raiders has good momentum. Now it needs to land properly and we‘ll see from there.