Iāve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasnāt sure how to feel about it.
Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.
When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken āfederationā system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but itās never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmyās official docs say you canāt even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it wonāt actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.
So you can only ever have the āaverage joe lemmyā and āaverage joe redditā with everything approved by the authorities, and then ātor copies of lemmyā and ātor copies of redditā where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.
People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But itās the exact same thing, itās reddit.
When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldnāt let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they wonāt let you talk at all.
Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.
Itās not actually a solution to reddit. Itās not designed to be different, itās designed to match the past today and then match redditās present tomorrow, while being part of a system thatās about the same in past, present, and future.
Last year, this year, and next year, youāre posting somewhere it wonāt be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. Thereās no difference here.
Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.
Edit - I was banned from my instance, and before being unbanned, some of my comments seem to have been removed. I apologize if I hurt anyoneās feelings, but it seems pointless to try to discuss this topic here. Iāll give a few more replies, and then suggest any further responses be directed to me on nostr, where there are no bans. Iāve also had a good time posting on PieFed while I was banned, so Iāll probably keep spending time there. If anyoneās curious, I had a thread about this topic on PieFed too. Btw, instead of the misplaced focus on bots, I should have said filter spam, not people earlier in this post.
Not sure what youāre trying to say here. Get better at typing.
Is repeatedly lying making you feel better about any of this?
Sounds like a you problem.
I donāt care, but your question baits me to say something you could try to use to justify getting me banned, which sucks. Try asking on nostr, where I canāt be banned, if you want my answer.
Didnāt ask.
Whatās in it for me?
To be clear, thatās a rhetorical question. I understand that you have nothing real to offer anyone.
Misuse of ānoā since this doesnāt change what I said, which is still true.
Also, didnāt ask.
The colloquial one, originating from Terry Davis.
Yep.
Do you read what you type?
Didnāt ask. You should stop putting your own statements in quote marks, itās weird.
Again, didnāt ask, didnāt finish reading this sentence, stopped at āmoreā since you keep refusing to explain why you wasted time typing things after I waste time reading them and ask why
Incorrect.
Incorrect again.
Incorrect yet again. Iām basically the most fluent English speaker alive (and quite monolingual).
4chan and Twitter are less censored than Reddit, but even more garbage.
Iām not lying. You just canāt read. I did not imply that nazis would somehow take over and censor a hypothetically unmoderated space.
I donāt see how that question baits you.
You keep replying. I obviously donāt need to give you anything here.
So as I said: Whereās your evidence of lemmy.world mods being glowies?
Yes. You did claim that lemmy.world mods are glowies. Source
āSo why do you think lemmy.world has rules beyond just blocking spam?ā
āBecause itās run by glowies, duh.ā
Iāll do whatever I like.
Name me these reasons for them being pressured.
You think youāre the best living english speaker on the planet?
āLess censoredā and āmore garbageā are both heavily debatable, but why did you bring this up? Whatās the relevance?
Thatās why I suggested you try asking on nostr, instead of here. Itās hard to know the answers to questions youāve asked in places the person youāre asking knows itās not really possible to give an appropriate answer.
I didnāt ask, but why did you put this right after a part where you ignored yet another question I asked? At least it was explicitly a rhetorical question this time, but still weird behavior to keep copying and pasting all the questions for no reason.
Iāll half-answer this if you answer one of the many questions youāve ignored from me.
Why are you acting like I suddenly forgot this?
I didnāt ask if you would.
You should stop putting your own statements in quote marks, itās weird.
What do you mean by āthese?ā
Thatās what the evidence suggests.
It shows that we have a good idea what will happen without censorship.
I donāt really give a fuck about your questions.
Itās pathetic that it took so many posts for you to finally acknowledge this question.
What sort of comical Jordan Peterson style reply is this lmao
Lmao what evidence fucking hell
How would it do that? How does it do that?
I didnāt ask if you do.
How many?
Also, is there a way to tell if (or maybe when) a post here is edited, so you could prove your answer with numbered links?
Neither comical nor Jordan Peterson style.
If I remember right you said āthese rulesā but it was a question, so itās acting like I somehow know what set of rules you mean when you didnāt establish a group of rules to be talking about before calling it āthese rulesā
The lack of anyone else demonstrating the same level of fluency as me despite what seems like immense pressure to do so in the current state of the anglosphere / planet
By being less censored than Reddit, and both being complete garbage and full of slop, spam and trolls.
How would they do that? Youāve spoken to everyone to know that you have better fluency?
Why should I do that?
No, it wasnāt.
I was asking what pressure the lemmy.world admins were supposedly under when they made the instance.
If that was all true, I still donāt see how it would answer my question.
Same ways as me, I guess (except more)
Your fluency is so bad thatās what you thought I said?
Or are you just a deeply dishonest person?
Do what? You put this after the part where you copied and pasted me asking if thereās a way to prove your answer with numbered links - are you asking me what the burden of proof is yet again? Why do you keep acting like you need things repeated so many times? And you still didnāt answer the question, is there a way to tell if (or maybe when) a post here is edited?
Incorrect. It was.
I didnāt ask what you had been asking at the time, and putting this after the āno, it wasntā makes it seem like this is all supposed to flow together to someone whoās not paying attention. But itās weird to do this manipulative stuff for āsomeone whoās not paying attentionā because, once again I tell you brother, it is pretty much just us this deep into this subthread so far.
Itās closer to being uncensored than Reddit or the Fediverse.
What a non-answer.
If you havenāt spoken to everyone, then how can you know that you are the most fluent English speaker on the planet?
I did none of this. My dude, you donāt even know how to check if a post is edited and youāre coming up with grand plans for how the future of Lemmy should go.
No, it wasnāt.
Whatever this slop is above me, itās not an answer. I was asking what pressure the lemmy.world admins were supposedly under when they made the instance.
What is?
What is?
I donāt really care for riddles.
I assume this is a response to me pointing out something you did. Why lie?
Didnāt ask.
What wasnāt what?
I probably didnāt ask what you thought about it. Why waste time typing that?
Todayās capitalism making people need money to survive, authorities threatening to arrest people who run websites that host āchild porn,ā etc.
Why do you keep asking such dumb questions?