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      19 hours ago

      No, it’s an example of us having been on this ride before so we recognize the setup. It’s going to be yet another round of “now isn’t the time for progressives” even though anything else is just slower fascism.

      A Newsom presidency would be better than Republicans, sure, but it’s going to continue the slide into fascism just like every neoliberal power grab does. We don’t need perfect, but a neoliberal doesn’t count as good.

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        You wouldn’t be voting for Newsom. You’d be voting AGAINST fascism. I really don’t know why this lesson hasn’t been learned yet. You don’t let the cancer take the body because you don’t like chemo.

        You take the chemo and live to fight the cancer.

        And we have never in history- been on this ride before. EVER. It’s just that you all like to apply bad logic like this to justify not doing your part to help.

        It’s easy to anonymously pass judgement on others online to an audience of people that will agree with you. I mean, look around. Nuanced thought at discussion is frowned upon here. But doing the actual work??

        All we see from the third party candidates is only a small window of a few months during election years when they promise a bunch of shit they have no authority to follow through with- or even validate with an actionable plan- then, when they lose, they turn to vapor. And then you all wonder why no one is willing to elect them.

        The dems may be ineffective in the fight against tyranny, but at least they’re visible.

        What is Jill Stein up to? Anyone heard from Cornell West? No? Well…. There ya go.

        So this is what we have. And this is what we need to support if it’s all we have. Want your little grassroots movement to make a splash? Pick someone with the balls to stick around when they lose.

        Until then, the far left is neutered and irrelevant in the political spectrum and needs to not be taken seriously until they’re ready to take shit seriously and do the fucking work.

        Now go ahead and rally behind all of your downvotes. It won’t change the fact that nothing I said is untrue.

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          And we have never in history- been on this ride before. EVER. It’s just that you all like to apply bad logic like this to justify not doing your part to help.

          Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously, this statement boils my blood. Fuck you and your fascism-enabling. We’ve been on this ride continuously for 9 fucking years because of assholes like you. We JUST saw it in action with the Democratic Party thinking we were idiots who would buy that only the exact right number of senators happened to flip. They’re willfully complicit and even though I have voted Dem every presidential election, I no longer will and you are a part of that. I’m sick and tired of neoliberal bootlickers like you excusing this farce of a party.

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            We JUST saw it in action with the Democratic Party thinking we were idiots

            Jumping to conclusions doesn’t make you one?

            who would buy that only the exact right number of senators happened to flip.

            Should we expect the wrong number?
            man wearing & pointing at tinfoil hat

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            10 hours ago

            In fairness, I didn’t read past the first sentence. So… when you can calm down and discuss this like a mature and rational adult, I’ll explain what you misunderstood.

            Just let me know when that happens.

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              10 hours ago

              You’re what’s wrong with the Democratic base. You are actively hurling this country into fascism because you don’t care what happens as long as you feel morally superior.

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                    10 hours ago

                    And you’re the one that cannot conduct yourself like an adult when people say shit you don’t like to hear.

                    Do better.

                    Blocking you now as from this point forward, I really don’t see you having anything worthwhile to say.