They could both be right… From a certain point of view.
Within FAIR, LeCun has instead focused on developing world models that can truly plan and reason. Over the past year, though, Meta’s AI research groups have seen growing tension and mass layoffs as Zuckerberg has shifted the company’s AI strategy away from long-term research and toward the rapid deployment of commercial products.
LeCun says current AI models are a dead end for progress. I think he’s correct.
Zuckerberg appears to believe long term development of alternative models will be a bigger money drain than pushing current ones. I think he’s correct too.
It looks like two guys arguing about which dead end to pursue.
LeCun says current AI models are a dead end for progress.
Sure. That’s easily proven, as the Pacific Rim tech companies are all running laps around the American models in terms of efficiency and output.
It looks like two guys arguing about which dead end to pursue
They’re both Snipe Hunting for the mythological AGI, because they’re each invested in the idea of a Singularity solving all their problems.
LLMs have a set of niche useful applications, but these dudes are chucking that advancement aside in pursuit of Digital God.
With Roko’s Basilisk bumping around in their heads, I can’t help but detect a certain religious fervor, either. We really might have folks who believe they’ll be tortured for eternity if they don’t build AI Hellraiser first.
He’s been wrong about it so far and really derailed Meta’s efforts.
This is almost certainly a “you can resign or we are going to fire you” kind of situation. There’s no way with the setbacks and how badly he’s been wrong on transformers over the past 2 years that he is not finally being pushed out.
Nah. Nobody “invented” “deep learning”. Assuming there’s some progress of science it’s independent of any particular privileged bro. In fact this kind of “hero” worship is extremely anti-science. Nowadays this guy is just another mediocre grifter rich bro (regardless of past research that anybody could have done with a fair opportunity).
Chumming is a Quest in Escape from Tarkov. Must be level 24 to start this quest. Stash 3 Golden neck chains under the mattress next to BTR-82A in Generic Store on Interchange Stash 3 Golden neck chains in the microwave on the 3rd floor of the dorm on Customs Stash 3 Golden neck chains in the middle wooden cabin at the sawmill on Woods Eliminate 5 PMC operatives in the time period of 22:00-10: …
Also he thinks LLMs are a dead end for getting smarter AI while Zuck is doubling down on them.
Well, he’s got a bowtie and Zuck wears an oversized t-shirt with Bugs Bunny dressed as a 90s rapper.
They certainly can’t both be wrong, can they?
They could both be right… From a certain point of view.
LeCun says current AI models are a dead end for progress. I think he’s correct.
Zuckerberg appears to believe long term development of alternative models will be a bigger money drain than pushing current ones. I think he’s correct too.
It looks like two guys arguing about which dead end to pursue.
Sure. That’s easily proven, as the Pacific Rim tech companies are all running laps around the American models in terms of efficiency and output.
They’re both Snipe Hunting for the mythological AGI, because they’re each invested in the idea of a Singularity solving all their problems.
LLMs have a set of niche useful applications, but these dudes are chucking that advancement aside in pursuit of Digital God.
With Roko’s Basilisk bumping around in their heads, I can’t help but detect a certain religious fervor, either. We really might have folks who believe they’ll be tortured for eternity if they don’t build AI Hellraiser first.
He’s been wrong about it so far and really derailed Meta’s efforts.
This is almost certainly a “you can resign or we are going to fire you” kind of situation. There’s no way with the setbacks and how badly he’s been wrong on transformers over the past 2 years that he is not finally being pushed out.
Getting Smarter AI < Making More Money
Is there more money in smarter AI or in manipulating people’s voting patterns with the tools you’ve got?
I saw Suck at Trump’s inauguration, I didn’t see this Chinese feller there.
He’s French, actually.
This is one of the three people that basically invented Deep Learning . One of the others is Geoffrey Hinton, who got the Nobel Prize in 2024
No matter what you think of LeCun or his opinions… he’s damn well worth listening to with attention and respect.
Nah. Nobody “invented” “deep learning”. Assuming there’s some progress of science it’s independent of any particular privileged bro. In fact this kind of “hero” worship is extremely anti-science. Nowadays this guy is just another mediocre grifter rich bro (regardless of past research that anybody could have done with a fair opportunity).
Well I’ve been a damn drunk fool, then, sir.
Good for you for owning up to it like a grown up. Might I suggest rewarding yourself by shumming?
Mmmno.
Shumming.
It’s a new word I learned the other day on lemmy.
It’s when you shit and cum at the same time.
Here it is a sentence “I’m going to shun all over your face”
Or “I can’t right now, I’m shumming!”
I wish you hadn’t.
You, me, and everyone else