Ubuntu has that dumb subscription to get security updates that pushed me away. Sure it was free for personal use, but I don’t want to have to give my personal information to get updates that are created primarily by volunteer open source developers anyway.
Exactly. But the corporations do it because it benefits them more than starting from scratch. They should release all changes to the central repository for all to consume as part of the agreement to get the benefit of the already created software. Not hold onto the patches to give them to their customers and people who pay them with their personal information.
Y’know…this. I might not like it, and many of their choices are… questionable…
…but I think it’s good we have some effort coming from full-time career paid Linux developers, rather than just sponsorship money from FOSS-leeches like “mEtA” and “aMaZoN.”
By simply not using Ubuntu, and ignoring the MOTD on my VM servers…I don’t really feel affected by their actions in any meaningful way. And that makes me happy.
As opposed to having to just accept whatever new footgun Microsoft wants to blast users with next.
Same they did before or red hat does or every other corporation who has benefitted from the labor of open source developers. Services built on those things or built around them. Not the things themselves. Their corporate customers benefit from the stuff they produce, but they didn’t produce most of it,so either start from scratch with, propriety software, or they need to give the content to everyone at the same time, not hold onto it for some time. That’s against the whole idea of open source and probably technically violates some copyleft licenses, but definitely violates the spirit of them. Even if they fix some bugs or add some features, they didn’t come up with the ideas, build the thing while it wasn’t producing income, or build the communities that they collaborate with. They just add what benefits them to the existing content.
You do not seriously think all canonical has done is snaps and Gnome.
Is building one of the most popular linux desktop environments and distros not enough to sell a paid support package to the users who want it? I dont think thats unfair.
Ubuntu has that dumb subscription to get security updates that pushed me away. Sure it was free for personal use, but I don’t want to have to give my personal information to get updates that are created primarily by volunteer open source developers anyway.
as far as I understand it, they aren’t directly from upstream, canonical makes or backports those patches.
that’s the whole point, subscribing gets you patches before the devs of the packages do for that version
Exactly. But the corporations do it because it benefits them more than starting from scratch. They should release all changes to the central repository for all to consume as part of the agreement to get the benefit of the already created software. Not hold onto the patches to give them to their customers and people who pay them with their personal information.
I don’t understand what’s the bonus of suscribing for those updates. Are they better or come before everyone else gets them?
What do you think canonical should charge for? They do put a ton of work into the linux eco system
Y’know…this. I might not like it, and many of their choices are… questionable…
…but I think it’s good we have some effort coming from full-time career paid Linux developers, rather than just sponsorship money from FOSS-leeches like “mEtA” and “aMaZoN.”
By simply not using Ubuntu, and ignoring the MOTD on my VM servers…I don’t really feel affected by their actions in any meaningful way. And that makes me happy.
As opposed to having to just accept whatever new footgun Microsoft wants to blast users with next.
If you don’t want amazon in GNU/Linux, Ubuntu probably isn’t the best choice
Same they did before or red hat does or every other corporation who has benefitted from the labor of open source developers. Services built on those things or built around them. Not the things themselves. Their corporate customers benefit from the stuff they produce, but they didn’t produce most of it,so either start from scratch with, propriety software, or they need to give the content to everyone at the same time, not hold onto it for some time. That’s against the whole idea of open source and probably technically violates some copyleft licenses, but definitely violates the spirit of them. Even if they fix some bugs or add some features, they didn’t come up with the ideas, build the thing while it wasn’t producing income, or build the communities that they collaborate with. They just add what benefits them to the existing content.
Entirely seriously:
Such as what exactly?
… Developing… Snaps?
Like, no, really, what do they do?
Are they why GNOME devs are insufferable?
???
You do not seriously think all canonical has done is snaps and Gnome.
Is building one of the most popular linux desktop environments and distros not enough to sell a paid support package to the users who want it? I dont think thats unfair.
No, I was genuienly asking.
Yep, they make a distro.
Lots of orgs make distros.
This isn’t a decade ago, when Ubuntu was … leagues more generally user friendly than most other distros.
What do they do for the broader linux ecosystem, outside of their own distro, other than snaps?
You said they contribute to the ecosystem.
How do they do that?