• Lumisal@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        Wait, you’re the troll who insists being called drag is the same as someone trans wanting to be called s/he, aren’t you?

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          6 hours ago

          Yep. The one and the same. It’s unbelievable that they’re still around with the same username. The admins of their instance just don’t give a shit.

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          9 hours ago

          I don’t know the other user, but this is irrelevant to this conversation.

          Omnivore is biological designation of the type of foods that our bodies are biologically equipped to handle. Note that “capable of eating/digesting meat” does not mean must eat meat. Animals in that category would be “obligate carnivores.”

          “Meateater” is probably the more common term for someone who makes the lifestyle choice to consume animal products. But “carnist” is intended to encompass non-food uses (e.g. wearing leather). While it may be used as a pejorative by the vegan community, any term is likely to be used that way (including omnivore or meateater) when describing a group that one views with contempt.

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            6 hours ago

            But veganism can use leather and eat meat in the appropriate circumstances come to think of it.

            Edit: just to be clear, this was something I was told by other Vegans, including in person. Roadkill or an existing carcass of an animal that dies naturally for example are fine.

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          14 hours ago

          No, drag’s not a troll, just an ordinary trans person with unusual pronouns. If anyone here is outraged about trans people literally just minding their own business, it isn’t drag. It would have to be someone who brought up neopronouns just to complain about them.

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            6 hours ago

            Everyone knows you’re a troll. The whole “drag” bit is just the “I identify as an attack helicopter” but just subtle enough so as to make it easy to pretend it’s real.

            It’s absolutely amazing you’ve been able to keep this going for so long.

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                  4 hours ago

                  If drag were a troll, you would be an unwitting collaborator, because drag would have tricked you into being transphobic and hating neopronouns. But drag’s not a troll, and you’re unfairly blaming drag for your hatred what’s different. Drag didn’t manipulate you into not wanting to learn about trans issues and do better by trans people, you manipulated yourself and convinced yourself that drag was to blame.

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                    Fucking hilarious!

                    How convenient that you have your own clever definition of trolling and it amazingly happens to not involve the bullshit you do here!

                    What’s worse than the shit you pull here is that people actually believe it.

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            14 hours ago

            Ahhh, you are that person that misrepresents trans people and makes them look bad on purpose! You just forgot your schtick for a moment. Nevermind then, your opinion is meaningless.

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              13 hours ago

              Yea man, finding out that Drag is a vegan surprised no one. It’s just another moral high ground to argue with Internet strangers from to feel better about what I imagine is a very uninteresting life.

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                I doubt they’re either trans or vegan. I think they’re one of those right wing folk who just like to make minorities look bad, like that goyper who started that whole kid furries ask for litterboxes at school thing.

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                  Oh they’re a massive troll. And lemmy deserves their shit. It’s been known for a long time that they’re here to disrupt and troll and all admins allow it.

                  He even told someone to kill themselves if I remember correctly. Apparently, that’s all fine.

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        Yeah, but vegans also don’t use animal products as well (and sometimes products that may hurt animals secondarily) so it’s a descriptor for not just diet but lifestyle. And vegetarianism allows for animal byproducts but not meat, so also not omnivorous I think?

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          Drag:

          Carnist is just the word for people who eat meat, it’s not vegans’ fault you decided it’s an insult. Suggest a non insulting word.

          You:

          Omnivore

          Me:

          (Well Carnivore would be meat only, Omivore is everything, Herbivore is veg only. But yeah.)

          Were we not having a discussion on the correct word for meat eater, which would be carnivore? I’m confused

          Nonetheless, -vore as a root word means devour, carni- means flesh/meat, omni- means all, and herb- means, well, herbs. These words all only describe the animal by their diet, not also their sociological choices.