• Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    15 hours ago

    Yes, treating anything the way humans treat animals is wrong. Isaac Bashevis Singer lived through the holocaust as a Jewish man, and learned firsthand what suffering is inflicted on the animals. He then wrote this quote.

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      10 hours ago

      We are animals. Simplistic in many ways many animals eat meat, and that’s ok. We do it too. We should do it much less from an environmental standpoint. Meat is good to eat, however there is nothing wrong with not eating meat. Plants feel too, not like us for sure but they communicate damage to one another.

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        Animals also extremely commonly rape and murder, and humans do it too. But we generally try to avoid animal instincts that cause suffering, even if many people naturally would do those things.

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            Yes and just because we do it doesn’t make it okay, no? Humans kill each other just like animals, but I’m not going to use that as a justification for killing someone.

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              Humans kill each just like animals because we are animals. If your back was agaisnt the wall would you fight back like the animal you are? Or would you run away like the animal you are? People do some crazy shit when we remove this thin veneer of human superiority

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                Yes I 100% agree which is why if anyone is in that situation I won’t fault them. To quote my brother after studying psychology for 4 years, humans are smart monkeys. The fact that we live in a world where that exists doesn’t make me not try and push for a better world though.

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            No, drag’s implying people don’t have to do something just because it’s natural. Dying of dysentery is natural, but we try to avoid that. That’s why your argument that we should eat meat because it’s natural is silly

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              Eating isn’t natural? Dying or dysentery is natural, that’s why people still die of dysentery. My argument that animals eat meat isnt silly

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                2 hours ago

                Drag believes you that animals eat meat, but that’s not a good reason for humans to eat meat. That would be an appeal to nature fallacy. Dingos eat babies, but humans shouldn’t.

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                  Humans are animals. It’s not an appeal to nature fallacy we are animals lol. Are humans somehow special are we better than the rest of nature? We’re superior or something?