The Russian president accuses Kyiv of wanting to fight "to the last Ukrainian" - which he says Russia is also "in principle" ready to do.
  • TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.caEnglish
    44·
    6 hours ago

    The Russian government is a rogue, hostile entity at this point and it needs to be dismantled. There is no way a peaceful future is possible with Russia still existing as it does today.

  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    13·
    5 hours ago

    You fuckers put Trump in charge. You’re still not getting what you want but for a totally different reason this time.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        26·
        3 hours ago

        They don’t vote for this either. Stop trying to press the idea of you are with us or against us. That shit is exactly what got us into this mess!

        • Nomorereddit@lemmy.todayEnglish
          1·
          5 minutes ago

          She, jerboa doesnt like free thinkers. Just propaganda. I mean why acknowledge we’re loving in the most peaceful time in human history…when they’d rather track down a Phillies karen

        • fonix232@fedia.io
          8·
          2 hours ago

          Nah. There was a clear choice between letting shit get much worse, or picking a sane-ish candidate.

          FPTP means you don’t vote for the candidate you like the most, but rather the candidate that will do the least damage. Even if you have to hold your nose. Voting for Kamala at that point wasn’t a vote for her but a vote against the orange turd.

  • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
    13·
    6 hours ago

    Have to admit its a smart play from the orks.

    1. Rebase the western position to your previous position by convincing a narcissistic senile moron to adopt it.

    2. Move your new position to complete takeover of Ukraine.

    3. Agree to “compromise” on a new agreement that is considerably better for you than your original position.

  • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
    232·
    6 hours ago

    Crimea and Donbas sounds like a good compromise, but if accepted all these people have basically died for nothing. History aside, Crimea is ethnically Russian and wants to be Russian. Donbas is much the same but wants to be independent instead of Russian, which is basically what started the war with pre-government Azov massacring civilians in Donbas that didn’t want to be Ukrainian anymore.

    • Insekticus@aussie.zoneEnglish
      132·
      5 hours ago

      So funny hearing russian-loving scum talking about Azov nazis as if your entire political class aren’t fucking nazis too. Go eat shit and die on the front line, cyka

        • fonix232@fedia.io
          31·
          2 hours ago

          dontcha love it when an obvious propaganda trollbot exposes itself in the first move?

            • fonix232@fedia.io
              1·
              2 hours ago

              Bro you’re literally suggesting appeasing an invading aggressor who has shown that no matter the international agreements, no matter how many times they’ll promise “okay we stop now”, they’ll continue their warmongering.

              There’s no appeasing people like that. When they come up with such a ridiculous demand, you don’t consider part of it, you send back an equally ridiculous demand of your own. You don’t let them control the game.

              Also, that whole “Crimea is actually russian” bullshit talking point is literally Russian propaganda. It’s only “sort of true” today due to forced relocation of local Ukrainians to who knows where and allowing Russian nationals to move in after the annexation. Russian population was actually declining from the post-WW2 forced relocations.

              Also an area having a large ethnic group - even a majority - gives no right to the home country of the ethnic group to annex the area. If that was a right, e.g. Hungary would’ve had a legitimate claim to most of Transylvania, Slovakia, half of Slovenia, the border regions with Croatia, Serbia, Romania, and even parts of Ukraine. Hell, imagine how easy it would be for a county to use the EU open borders to mass emigrate to another country, establish ethnic/national majority in a region just in time for census then claim that territory…

              • ryannathans@aussie.zoneEnglish
                1·
                9 minutes ago

                I said history aside. We can’t change that ethnic Russians were put in Crimea around 100 years ago. Do you want to displace the generations that have been living there ever since to “right the wrong”? Because of their ethnicity? It’s essentially the same thing as Israel being created in Palestine except Crimea doesn’t expand every year.

                It’s about ending bloodshed in a place that has basically never seen peace. I feel like the best way to achieve that is to let the people that live there decide. Last I checked they overwhelmingly chose Russia. If those elections are disputed for whatever reason, run them again if it ends the conflict but the west doesn’t get to decide it disagrees with the election if the results are not in their interests.