Wellā¦the people the right call leftist extremists are generally not leftists are have a tenuous leftist label.
Likeā¦(modern) anarchists are generally apolitical or nihilistsā¦and donāt come from the left at the rates they think they do. The Charlie Kirk shooter is a decent example of what somebody will say is this monolith of leftist extremism that exist in large numbers and is a cohesive group.
Short story long: those who use the label āleftist extremistā (without irony) are basically making a boogy man out of random crazies who they donāt have to ignore because theyāre not clearly right wingers.
This isnāt the 70sā¦they donāt have The Weather Underground and The Black Panthers to scapegoatā¦so they just make shit up.
I agreeā¦and Itās why I put modern in bracketsā¦then defined my terms. Donāt stop reading after the thing you disagree with.
ActualĀ anarchists are rare. The people we callĀ anarchists arenāt anarchistsā¦.theyāre a mishmash of hoodlums, nihilists, anti-fascists, Nazi agitators, etc.
i read the whole thing. the opening line of the second paragraph is just so declarative that it was hard to discern what you meant by any of this. I dont agree that modern anarchists are generally apolitical or nihilists, thats all.
But I defined my termsā¦and Iām alsoĀ correctā¦because Iām the one who framed the comment. You can be confusedā¦but you canāt disagree lol
Iāll further define them/clarify. Iām not talking about actual anarchistsā¦which donāt exist for the purposes of what Iām saying. Iām talking about anarchists as defined by Donald Trump, for example. The people heās talking about arenāt actual leftist anarchistsā¦they the Neo Nazi agitators, or the hoodlums that pollute leftist protests etc. Theyāre the guys from Fight Club. Capiche?
Are you talking about the definition of no rules and pure chaos associated with misfits and punks? Back in the 80s there was a whole genre of anarchist music that exemplified actual anarchistic political ideology. There was always a vein of actual anarchists around if looked around a bit.
I was thereā¦Iāve always ācaucusedā with anarchists.
Iām not talking about actual anarchistsā¦Iām talking about the people who the right label as anarchistsā¦ie the people who donāt know what anarchy is and think itās chaos and destruction and nihilism.
Ah, I find that most people I encounter canāt define socialism or communism. Thatās a problem. We need a robust education system to encourage curiosity on subjects we arenāt familiar with.
Wellā¦the people the right call leftist extremists are generally not leftists are have a tenuous leftist label.
Likeā¦(modern) anarchists are generally apolitical or nihilistsā¦and donāt come from the left at the rates they think they do. The Charlie Kirk shooter is a decent example of what somebody will say is this monolith of leftist extremism that exist in large numbers and is a cohesive group.
Short story long: those who use the label āleftist extremistā (without irony) are basically making a boogy man out of random crazies who they donāt have to ignore because theyāre not clearly right wingers.
This isnāt the 70sā¦they donāt have The Weather Underground and The Black Panthers to scapegoatā¦so they just make shit up.
anarchists are nearly absolutely leftist. i dont know what youre on about.
Unless he is referring to anarcocapitalists.
An odd form of anarchy that still requires the state to enforce property rights.
Capitalists that donāt believe in narcos?
Or āa narco capitalistā.
fair :) but they werent.
Is that just another name for libertarians?
Maybe. I donāt really know if itās 100% the same butā¦
I agreeā¦and Itās why I put modern in bracketsā¦then defined my terms. Donāt stop reading after the thing you disagree with.
ActualĀ anarchists are rare. The people we callĀ anarchists arenāt anarchistsā¦.theyāre a mishmash of hoodlums, nihilists, anti-fascists, Nazi agitators, etc.
i read the whole thing. the opening line of the second paragraph is just so declarative that it was hard to discern what you meant by any of this. I dont agree that modern anarchists are generally apolitical or nihilists, thats all.
Againā¦I agree with you.
But I defined my termsā¦and Iām alsoĀ correctā¦because Iām the one who framed the comment. You can be confusedā¦but you canāt disagree lol
Iāll further define them/clarify. Iām not talking about actual anarchistsā¦which donāt exist for the purposes of what Iām saying. Iām talking about anarchists as defined by Donald Trump, for example. The people heās talking about arenāt actual leftist anarchistsā¦they the Neo Nazi agitators, or the hoodlums that pollute leftist protests etc. Theyāre the guys from Fight Club. Capiche?
if you werent talking about actual anarchists, then you could have been clear in saying as much. anyway, good day.
The very first thing I said was āthe people who the right call anarchistsā.
This was a very Reddit-like exchange. Nostalgia.
then you started a new paragraph, making a declarative statement, contradicting the position you meant to convey.
Are you talking about the definition of no rules and pure chaos associated with misfits and punks? Back in the 80s there was a whole genre of anarchist music that exemplified actual anarchistic political ideology. There was always a vein of actual anarchists around if looked around a bit.
I was thereā¦Iāve always ācaucusedā with anarchists.
Iām not talking about actual anarchistsā¦Iām talking about the people who the right label as anarchistsā¦ie the people who donāt know what anarchy is and think itās chaos and destruction and nihilism.
Ah, I find that most people I encounter canāt define socialism or communism. Thatās a problem. We need a robust education system to encourage curiosity on subjects we arenāt familiar with.
The best way to recruit conservatives is to cut education.