We are talking about history facts, you didn’t know or worse, you ignored two of the biggest colonizing and conquest forces in the history of mankind and now you blame the west for something Islam is the king at.
Here is another history fact: there is no Spanish Empire without the Umayyad or the Ottoman Empire.
The worst thing about this conversation it that you aren’t even Muslim because they are proud of the Umayyad (not so much the Ottomans since they aren’t arabs)
We are talking about the current geopolitical configuration.
The argument presented is that in many Muslim-majority regions and states, the current political configuration is fundamentally a reaction to the imperialism and colonialism of the West.
Your examples are too deep in the past to be strongly relevant as antecedents to the current configuration, and also, fail in their attempt to paint Islam as exceptional.
You literally said no Muslim nation colonized the West which was a blatant lie.
Turkey, a Muslim nation, occupies Greek territory today.
Lebanon was a Christian nation until the 80s although they weren’t exactly conquered
They also tend to invade each other but that goes against your narrative too since you only care about west bad like every western nation has the same interests, although they should have a common interest in fighting islam.
I hope none of you defenders of Islam get to live in a Muslim ruled nation although you all deserve it.
Deeper in the past Muslim-majority states attacked the nearby fringes of the West, but the recent history is the West subduing most of the world as global imperialist hegemon.
It is the global imperialism of the West that directly accounts for reaction taking hold in such colonized regions.
I gave you modern examples (which you ignored) and that without mentioning Morocco which claims several western territorios and holds one that they took illegally which at best should be free and at worst an autonomous region.
You also disregarded the examples you were presented.
I am emphasizing that the current global imperialist hegemon is the West, and that there has never been another, which are not controversial, nor diminished by any of your examples.
As explained, the backward situation in Iran was directly a reaction of earlier interference by the UK.
Finally, your arrogant tone is not contributing to an appearance of your being clever or informed.
All you say is west bad, west responsible for every single evil in the world. People and nations are responsible for themselves in the XXI century, specially when some of those nations are among the richest in the world (Saudi, Qatar and Emirates for example)
Islam, as a religion is a religion of conquest as proven by their own book and, of course, their history. Their core belief is a universal caliphate in which everyone is muslim or subjugated by muslims (depends on the interpretation if you are a christian or jew you are ok, otherwise you are going to convert or die) and the universal caliphate is obtained through war and conquest. From the very beginning Muhammad raised an army and conquered cities,including Mecca, Muhammad lead by example because he was illiterate.
Islam is a religion of intolerance, where the different in prosecuted and punished, the apostate executed.
If that’s what you want you have plenty of places to go.
Regarding Iran it’s been 50 years, they are more than responsible for themselves, not so long ago they tried to fight it, this whole site was full of people supporting the people rebelling against the Islamic Republic of Iran ruled by a religious supreme leader and they were suppressed and killed by the Guidance a patrol a moral police
I have counterargument every single of your examples, I have fought your lies, I have exposed Islam which is easy because they don’t hide, you just keep repeating lies and blaming the west and ignoring all the harm Islam has caused and causes today without me mentioning Sharia Law until now.
Nice pivot.
Western corporations benefit from slave labor. Islam is not exceptional.
We are talking about history facts, you didn’t know or worse, you ignored two of the biggest colonizing and conquest forces in the history of mankind and now you blame the west for something Islam is the king at.
Here is another history fact: there is no Spanish Empire without the Umayyad or the Ottoman Empire.
The worst thing about this conversation it that you aren’t even Muslim because they are proud of the Umayyad (not so much the Ottomans since they aren’t arabs)
We are talking about the current geopolitical configuration.
The argument presented is that in many Muslim-majority regions and states, the current political configuration is fundamentally a reaction to the imperialism and colonialism of the West.
Your examples are too deep in the past to be strongly relevant as antecedents to the current configuration, and also, fail in their attempt to paint Islam as exceptional.
You literally said no Muslim nation colonized the West which was a blatant lie.
Turkey, a Muslim nation, occupies Greek territory today.
Lebanon was a Christian nation until the 80s although they weren’t exactly conquered
They also tend to invade each other but that goes against your narrative too since you only care about west bad like every western nation has the same interests, although they should have a common interest in fighting islam.
I hope none of you defenders of Islam get to live in a Muslim ruled nation although you all deserve it.
Deeper in the past Muslim-majority states attacked the nearby fringes of the West, but the recent history is the West subduing most of the world as global imperialist hegemon.
It is the global imperialism of the West that directly accounts for reaction taking hold in such colonized regions.
I gave you modern examples (which you ignored) and that without mentioning Morocco which claims several western territorios and holds one that they took illegally which at best should be free and at worst an autonomous region.
I have educated you enough.
You also disregarded the examples you were presented.
I am emphasizing that the current global imperialist hegemon is the West, and that there has never been another, which are not controversial, nor diminished by any of your examples.
As explained, the backward situation in Iran was directly a reaction of earlier interference by the UK.
Finally, your arrogant tone is not contributing to an appearance of your being clever or informed.
All you say is west bad, west responsible for every single evil in the world. People and nations are responsible for themselves in the XXI century, specially when some of those nations are among the richest in the world (Saudi, Qatar and Emirates for example)
Islam, as a religion is a religion of conquest as proven by their own book and, of course, their history. Their core belief is a universal caliphate in which everyone is muslim or subjugated by muslims (depends on the interpretation if you are a christian or jew you are ok, otherwise you are going to convert or die) and the universal caliphate is obtained through war and conquest. From the very beginning Muhammad raised an army and conquered cities,including Mecca, Muhammad lead by example because he was illiterate.
Islam is a religion of intolerance, where the different in prosecuted and punished, the apostate executed.
If that’s what you want you have plenty of places to go.
Regarding Iran it’s been 50 years, they are more than responsible for themselves, not so long ago they tried to fight it, this whole site was full of people supporting the people rebelling against the Islamic Republic of Iran ruled by a religious supreme leader and they were suppressed and killed by the Guidance a patrol a moral police
I have counterargument every single of your examples, I have fought your lies, I have exposed Islam which is easy because they don’t hide, you just keep repeating lies and blaming the west and ignoring all the harm Islam has caused and causes today without me mentioning Sharia Law until now.