I mean, the torment nexus is the torment nexus because the corpos did an unbelievable amount of data analytics to figure out how to precisely manipulate human emotions and brain chemistry.
Yes, we need to wrest control away from the digital drug dealers, but also, they are digital drug dealers, so you can actually do a good deal of that by detoxing, by quitting, going clean, destroying their market base, rewriting the cultural norms so that such activity is not celebrated, but viewed as shameful.
Detoxing from corpo social networks (or phrased differently: boycotting them) is at least an actionable thing that a person can do, and it will actually benefit them directly.
Of course, switching to non corpo social networks is also very important, but its probably still a good idea to have that detox period, to just, you know, renormalize, establish a new baseline, touch grass for a while.
I’ve logged into my Facebook account out of sheer curiosity, and my god it’s a wasteland. Ads, AI slop, hot takes from nobodies, the works. It is obviously designed to be as infuriating as possible, and qutting that digital landfill is the easiest thing ever.
I was one of the earliest adopters of Facebook, and also seemingly one of the earliest to bail out.
When the Cambridge Analytical scandal broke?
Nuked my entire account, at least, according to Facebook, who I’m totally sure doesn’t just still have their own archive of me, because how the fuck would I know?
Basically everyone I knew thought I was literally insane for doing that at that time… I connected the dots and realized the true extent of what they could be, and we now know they were and are doing … because I worked with databases and data analytics.
But nope, everyone thought I was nuts, and slept walked into the social apocalypse.
All you need to know about Facebook:
Zuck: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at harvard
Zuck: just ask
Zuck: i have over 4000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns
I only used it to check a local thing (they don’t have a website, just a fb) and my account was banned “for lurking and inactivity” and when I found out it was 180 days since automated ban, so I can’t request my account back. 180 days since they did it because they shut down for renovation for a little bit and then it was summer so they were inactive then too. They didn’t get banned, so I think they may have proven that they do indeed exist and that they are indeed important to facebook. I’m not able to go as often due to account removal.
i think oop wants to challange the underlying assumption that “digital” automatically means corporate social media and such.
There are large parts of the digital world that I would not describe as toxic that actually work for the people not against them.
Touching Grass is important but large parts of “real-life” are just as toxic.
You can find a break from those in the good parts of digital life as well as by touching grass.
theres good and bad in both, and most of online sites are not toxic, but most of these nontoxic sites remain untouched and will for a while, and they are quite small. I’ve joined blips.club and spacehey and they are so refreshing and feel so nice. digital detoxxes can be good or bad, so can social media and it depends a lot on circumstance
Sure… but unless you’re talking like, I2P decentralized alternative internet… or torrents…
… (almost) everything runs pretty much entirely on servers that are owned by a handful of megacorps.
Almost every physical part of the internet fundamentally is literally controlled by corpos, and they also govern almost all the software that is run on that physical stuff.
Yeah, it didn’t used to be that way, so extensively and thoroughly, yeah, it doesn’t have to be in the future… but like, how, what’s the plan?
See how that compares to ‘detox from toxic corpo social media’ as… an actually actionable plan that produces results?
I dunno, I don’t generally care for self expression for self expression’s sake, in the form of saying things to a small audience that said small audience will just generally agree with, as compared to a potentially actionable plan to actually cause the change that is being prescribed by that statement.
There’s expressing feelings, and there’s “here’s something you could maybe do to remedy the situation causing those feelings, to achieve the effect I desire”.
countering almost all stuff online is corpo (except piracy)
internet archive? the millions of servers making up the fediverse? foss maintainers and organizations, wikipedia, etc. if you have a computer, you can make a webpage. yes, that old mac you played oregan trail on instead of doing your research could host a server. the internet is always 1 foss maintainer from collapsing and most servers are old laptops hosting a personal site nobody has visited before, and along with that, decentralized media and archives for said media. most web domains are not known because theres quite a few random kids (like me) who learn javascript, html, css, et cetera and make a personal site and host it hoping someone will visit, hoping someone will care, and most of them have 0 visits from anyone other than the creator. example.org is a real domain by the way.
your computer sometimes acts as a router, if someone near you is looking for a site, and their device and/or router can’t find it, they’ll look to nearby devices to see if they know where it is, so sometimes your device does that. if you have folding@home installed on any of your devices, your device will temporarily become a server as long as you have it running.
many small buisnesses and some schools have their own sites. those (usually) aren’t owned by megacorp
sorry for the rant and have a great day (also sorry for bad grammar/spelling too tired to fix a the moment)
I mean, the torment nexus is the torment nexus because the corpos did an unbelievable amount of data analytics to figure out how to precisely manipulate human emotions and brain chemistry.
Yes, we need to wrest control away from the digital drug dealers, but also, they are digital drug dealers, so you can actually do a good deal of that by detoxing, by quitting, going clean, destroying their market base, rewriting the cultural norms so that such activity is not celebrated, but viewed as shameful.
Detoxing from corpo social networks (or phrased differently: boycotting them) is at least an actionable thing that a person can do, and it will actually benefit them directly.
Of course, switching to non corpo social networks is also very important, but its probably still a good idea to have that detox period, to just, you know, renormalize, establish a new baseline, touch grass for a while.
I’ve logged into my Facebook account out of sheer curiosity, and my god it’s a wasteland. Ads, AI slop, hot takes from nobodies, the works. It is obviously designed to be as infuriating as possible, and qutting that digital landfill is the easiest thing ever.
I was one of the earliest adopters of Facebook, and also seemingly one of the earliest to bail out.
When the Cambridge Analytical scandal broke?
Nuked my entire account, at least, according to Facebook, who I’m totally sure doesn’t just still have their own archive of me, because how the fuck would I know?
Basically everyone I knew thought I was literally insane for doing that at that time… I connected the dots and realized the true extent of what they could be, and we now know they were and are doing … because I worked with databases and data analytics.
But nope, everyone thought I was nuts, and slept walked into the social apocalypse.
All you need to know about Facebook:
I only used it to check a local thing (they don’t have a website, just a fb) and my account was banned “for lurking and inactivity” and when I found out it was 180 days since automated ban, so I can’t request my account back. 180 days since they did it because they shut down for renovation for a little bit and then it was summer so they were inactive then too. They didn’t get banned, so I think they may have proven that they do indeed exist and that they are indeed important to facebook. I’m not able to go as often due to account removal.
i think oop wants to challange the underlying assumption that “digital” automatically means corporate social media and such.
There are large parts of the digital world that I would not describe as toxic that actually work for the people not against them.
Touching Grass is important but large parts of “real-life” are just as toxic. You can find a break from those in the good parts of digital life as well as by touching grass.
theres good and bad in both, and most of online sites are not toxic, but most of these nontoxic sites remain untouched and will for a while, and they are quite small. I’ve joined blips.club and spacehey and they are so refreshing and feel so nice. digital detoxxes can be good or bad, so can social media and it depends a lot on circumstance
Sure… but unless you’re talking like, I2P decentralized alternative internet… or torrents…
… (almost) everything runs pretty much entirely on servers that are owned by a handful of megacorps.
Almost every physical part of the internet fundamentally is literally controlled by corpos, and they also govern almost all the software that is run on that physical stuff.
Yeah, it didn’t used to be that way, so extensively and thoroughly, yeah, it doesn’t have to be in the future… but like, how, what’s the plan?
See how that compares to ‘detox from toxic corpo social media’ as… an actually actionable plan that produces results?
I dunno, I don’t generally care for self expression for self expression’s sake, in the form of saying things to a small audience that said small audience will just generally agree with, as compared to a potentially actionable plan to actually cause the change that is being prescribed by that statement.
There’s expressing feelings, and there’s “here’s something you could maybe do to remedy the situation causing those feelings, to achieve the effect I desire”.
countering almost all stuff online is corpo (except piracy)
internet archive? the millions of servers making up the fediverse? foss maintainers and organizations, wikipedia, etc. if you have a computer, you can make a webpage. yes, that old mac you played oregan trail on instead of doing your research could host a server. the internet is always 1 foss maintainer from collapsing and most servers are old laptops hosting a personal site nobody has visited before, and along with that, decentralized media and archives for said media. most web domains are not known because theres quite a few random kids (like me) who learn javascript, html, css, et cetera and make a personal site and host it hoping someone will visit, hoping someone will care, and most of them have 0 visits from anyone other than the creator. example.org is a real domain by the way.
your computer sometimes acts as a router, if someone near you is looking for a site, and their device and/or router can’t find it, they’ll look to nearby devices to see if they know where it is, so sometimes your device does that. if you have folding@home installed on any of your devices, your device will temporarily become a server as long as you have it running.
many small buisnesses and some schools have their own sites. those (usually) aren’t owned by megacorp
sorry for the rant and have a great day (also sorry for bad grammar/spelling too tired to fix a the moment)