So then what you need to do is build …what… ? Take your thought to it’s logical conclusion.
Look, dear American people, there is no cavalry coming to save you. You have to do this. It’s your country. Build the infrastructure, build the organization.
I mean, at the VERY LEAST, you could do one of those cute marches during a week day… maybe start there
This is you right now!
The real problem here is that you painted your collective selves to a corner by apathy and inaction… now, pretty much any option left does require some sacrifice but God forbid you had to move a finger and crack a nail… better let other people keep dying so you can keep watching the game with a beer in hand
Liberal Americans are just waiting out a hypothetical course correction to a more polite and slower collapse of the empire. They are completely unwilling to consider that the US government and the country itself is the bad guy.
It’s about time we stopped saying things like ”Trump attacked Venezuela” – the US did. Americans happily killed those people. And the killers’ relatives support them. Americans on Lemmy support them, claiming there’s nothing the killers could have done: they were just following orders.
Ultimately, the reason why supposed opponents of the Trump regime are looking for you and others to provide them with a clear path for how to decisively defeat the entirety of the US government in one fell swoop, is that their red lines, at which they’re willing to fight, win or lose, have not been crossed yet. Everything so far has been tolerable to them.
This separates them from the Maga grassroots Americans, that notably managed to storm the Capitol.
It’s telling that you find that idea so outlandish.
People do sign up to fight aggressive shit hole countries like the US all the time, even when the odds don’t look good on paper. Just look at Ukraine. At this point most Europeans have probably given a fleeting thought to the possibility that they might soon have to fight Russia too.
For that matter, look at all poorly equipped militias that have fought off the US at massive disadvantages.
You do realise there is another half of the country that opposes this right? Even if 55% of the country tries to throw trump out 45% will show up to stop him and that will be a very bloody conflict.
Better just to wait until mid terms and next election and vote him out.
Not sure. I think the right will but I also think if they dont then its the better time for a bloody conflict.
You’ll have a lot more people on your side after an election loss because trump is already unpopular and people will feel cheated out of democracy. Whereas if you start a conflict now your side will look like the ones trying to overthrow democracy since he was the legitimate winner.
Yes. And the good Americans are constantly working towards that, anywhere from really complicated micro step means like funding grassroots progressives to things like Massie and Khanna collaborating on legislation to nation wide protests.
This is an extremely complex and disturbing situation that requires mass demonstrations and complex beuarocratic machinations and acting like Greg from Atlanta not rolling up to Washington on a tractor with a shotgun is what’s letting it happen is fucking reductive, emotional, immature, unconstructive, childish, in-fighting causing, and just fucking stupid. As stupid as they nking democracy is dead in the USA.
No one expects you to go Rambo. They just want the majority of people to find their morals and do something.
As unlikely as that is dont get so worked up because some anon was provoking you to do exactly what you just did. Maybe tomorrow you wont take down your local police department but instead look at a homeless person and think, “this isnt right.”
Really just outs the commenter as having no fucking clue what they are talking about.
We are doing what we can. Constant record breaking protests. Progressives are winning by historic margins. These stupid fucking pretentious insulting comments do less than nothing.
People really just cannot fucking comprehend the breadth and intensity of the psy op propaganda that the Republicans have enacted (really since Nixon) but intensely starting with Trump.
Unprecedented targetting, unprecedented amounts of propaganda, and a collaboration with multiple foreign adversaries to assist. Trumps campaign was literally sending voter data to Russia so they can specifically target Americans with propaganda.
On top of OAN, Fox News, podcasts, and talk radio, we literally had Russia and china making thousands of full on fake websites posing as legit news spreading insane anti left bullshit. Social media was completely flooded with bots spreading misinformation leading up to all of Trump’s elections
America is the victim of the biggest and most advanced brainwashing campaign in the history of mankind and we all seem to be ignoring that fact when it is the single most important aspect of modern American and global politics.
You try changing people’s opinions when you can’t even agree on what is and what isn’t reality. I really don’t think you guys have any idea how broken half of this country is. We do. Because we have to deal with these people on a daily basis. Some of them are our family.
how about try to ask yourself: would you have shot hitler, had you been there, in nazi-germany? when all oposing parties and minorities were consecutively arrested and jailed?
i am a german, i know of this stuff. i was just responding to the guy, who said, theres nothing, as an US-american, he can do about. Sure he can. Americans shouldnt belittle us, as to what happened during the time of nazi germany, when they wont do stuff themselves, when presented with an somewhat similar situation.
okay, so the google ai (i forgot to turn it off) says pre ww2 germany was about 633,000 square kilometers to the hogshead (including austria and sudentenland because idk i was up late). united states takes up about 9,150,000 square kilometers to the hogshead. does that explain the difference in size a little bit?
so what, the country is bigger, so any assasination on trump is riskier? or resistence to the covernment? i dont understand your logic, what does size of a country matter when presented with an president, who does fascist things, right in the front of you face. And the american people do nothing about it, they then are all complicit in his actions, as were deemed the german people during the nuremberg trials.
y’all are trying to say just walk over to dc. you seem to not understand the scale of things. you had a country, we have a continent to walk across. fucking bad faith nazi.
Yeah why aren’t me and you single handedly overthrowing this democratically elected government! We must be stupid or something
I love seeing foreigners asking Americans online why they don’t just stop this.
Like, motherfucker millions of us voted against this.
This is the result of multiple nations and multiple massive data analytics corps collaborating to create the biggest propaganda machine ever seen on earth which brainwashed millions of Americans.
But yeah. Why the fuck isnt Dave, the liberal from Vermont just walking to Washington and stopping this!!! /s
No. But the American logic has always been “we must do something” -> “this is something” -> “therefore we must do it”. Take the dumbest idea and run with it, or use it as an excuse for inaction.
You’ve really made a difference by insulting people who agree with you and are already using their means to fight against this admin
You are a true revolutionary.
Wish you could go back in time and tell all the Jews in Germany who didn’t vote for Hitler that they are stupid for not stopping him. That would be really constructive. You could really save us some trouble there.
You are a coward. Along with the millions who stayed home on voting day, letting this global nightmare happen. 2nd amendment you yanks love to waive around in everyone’s face, was made for this. Yet … crickets.
The victim is the world and the murder-rapist is the us. We do think its fucked up you all live in the same house but there comes a point when maybe “don’t blame me I voted for Kodos” does not work when you are all buying the clown makeup for John Wayne Gacy.
tag me however you want, won’t make your actions any less pathetic.
for the record, I wouldn’t have even seen it if you hadn’t downvote bombed all my comments, but you piqued my interest enough to investigate your account.
I found some pretty interesting stuff. did you know that it’s possible to see all the downvote bombing you’ve done? like seriously dude…do you not have a life? not only that, but it seems you actually wrote a script to go through and do it for you because these timestamps are almost simultaneous.
I’m impressed that you could know enough to script something out and still be ignorant enough to leave breadcrumbs behind. real amateur hour stuff.
that’s not the only interesting thing either. I can see your upvotes too. it’s pretty telling tbh.
Americans are terrorists and it’s people are cowards for allowing this to go on
And what would you do in our position? Stop acting like the average American citizen has any control over this.
General strike.
I mean, you Americans love to compare yourselves with Rome, learn something from the Secessio Plebis.
Or better, take a hint from your own previous social movements.
General strikes don’t materialize out of nowhere and require significantly more organization and infrastructure than currently exists.
So then what you need to do is build …what… ? Take your thought to it’s logical conclusion.
Look, dear American people, there is no cavalry coming to save you. You have to do this. It’s your country. Build the infrastructure, build the organization.
Start small, build up: https://youtu.be/vvaquOcNEKI
I mean, at the VERY LEAST, you could do one of those cute marches during a week day… maybe start there
This is you right now!
The real problem here is that you painted your collective selves to a corner by apathy and inaction… now, pretty much any option left does require some sacrifice but God forbid you had to move a finger and crack a nail… better let other people keep dying so you can keep watching the game with a beer in hand
Liberal Americans are just waiting out a hypothetical course correction to a more polite and slower collapse of the empire. They are completely unwilling to consider that the US government and the country itself is the bad guy.
It’s about time we stopped saying things like ”Trump attacked Venezuela” – the US did. Americans happily killed those people. And the killers’ relatives support them. Americans on Lemmy support them, claiming there’s nothing the killers could have done: they were just following orders.
Ultimately, the reason why supposed opponents of the Trump regime are looking for you and others to provide them with a clear path for how to decisively defeat the entirety of the US government in one fell swoop, is that their red lines, at which they’re willing to fight, win or lose, have not been crossed yet. Everything so far has been tolerable to them.
This separates them from the Maga grassroots Americans, that notably managed to storm the Capitol.
The average American is a pile of uneducated garbage.
Im just an indigenous guy enjoying the downfall of your people
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lol like a man falling off a cliff, grasping at branches
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Fat apathetic ignorant Americans are the true cowards.
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It’s telling that you find that idea so outlandish.
People do sign up to fight aggressive shit hole countries like the US all the time, even when the odds don’t look good on paper. Just look at Ukraine. At this point most Europeans have probably given a fleeting thought to the possibility that they might soon have to fight Russia too.
For that matter, look at all poorly equipped militias that have fought off the US at massive disadvantages.
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This is just such an incredibly stupid insulting thing to say.
Millions of Americans oppose this admin and are actively protesting and volunteering against it.
We can’t just walk to fucking DC and remove a democratically elected prez you idiots
It’s Jan 6th. tomorrow, just saying.
Yeah, and how did that work out?
Worked out great for the traitors, they all got pardoned and got re-elected.
It seems to have worked well enough for them, since they’re the ones running the government now.
I also don’t think they’re going to leave peacefully ever. If you want them out, you might as well toss them out sooner than later.
It didn’t stop Biden’s inauguration, which was the stated goal.
You do realise there is another half of the country that opposes this right? Even if 55% of the country tries to throw trump out 45% will show up to stop him and that will be a very bloody conflict.
Better just to wait until mid terms and next election and vote him out.
Do you think they’ll accept a loss at the next election, or are they going to start a bloody conflict anyway?
Not sure. I think the right will but I also think if they dont then its the better time for a bloody conflict.
You’ll have a lot more people on your side after an election loss because trump is already unpopular and people will feel cheated out of democracy. Whereas if you start a conflict now your side will look like the ones trying to overthrow democracy since he was the legitimate winner.
You only get one shot at this kind of thing
Yes you can. “Millions of Americans” sounds like an army.
An army with (at best) small arms. Against the US military, we may as well have sticks and stones.
Your American army got defeated by villagers with sticks and stones in Vietnam.
Yeah it definitely didn’t have anything to do with all the hardware and intel from Russia
Always someone else’s fault with you yanks. Never taking responsibility for your own failings.
“My” failing for a dumb war that ended over a decade before I existed. K.
Changing your Facebook profile picture doesn’t count. If you feel insulted, look around and think.
Yeah you can’t cause you’re all talk, you’re idiots and cowards. The faster you guys become a third world shithole the better.
Your entire country is a disease.
Sincerely an indigenous person
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Yes. And the good Americans are constantly working towards that, anywhere from really complicated micro step means like funding grassroots progressives to things like Massie and Khanna collaborating on legislation to nation wide protests.
This is an extremely complex and disturbing situation that requires mass demonstrations and complex beuarocratic machinations and acting like Greg from Atlanta not rolling up to Washington on a tractor with a shotgun is what’s letting it happen is fucking reductive, emotional, immature, unconstructive, childish, in-fighting causing, and just fucking stupid. As stupid as they nking democracy is dead in the USA.
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go and fuck your hat. I’m a coward because I don’t want to stand up to the most powerful military in the world being damn near a senior citizen?
Bro, they on your side.
No one expects you to go Rambo. They just want the majority of people to find their morals and do something.
As unlikely as that is dont get so worked up because some anon was provoking you to do exactly what you just did. Maybe tomorrow you wont take down your local police department but instead look at a homeless person and think, “this isnt right.”
I do contribute. Drive for a local charity a few hours a month. They need a truck, I got a truck.
I’m frustrated as fuck with the govt. right now. but, they voted it in and now we have to try to get through it. I hope it doesn’t end with bloodshed.
Thats it man, youre leagues above. Dont let the politics trigger you. Youre losing yourself to something you cant control.
Same goes for me.
Really just outs the commenter as having no fucking clue what they are talking about.
We are doing what we can. Constant record breaking protests. Progressives are winning by historic margins. These stupid fucking pretentious insulting comments do less than nothing.
People really just cannot fucking comprehend the breadth and intensity of the psy op propaganda that the Republicans have enacted (really since Nixon) but intensely starting with Trump.
Unprecedented targetting, unprecedented amounts of propaganda, and a collaboration with multiple foreign adversaries to assist. Trumps campaign was literally sending voter data to Russia so they can specifically target Americans with propaganda.
On top of OAN, Fox News, podcasts, and talk radio, we literally had Russia and china making thousands of full on fake websites posing as legit news spreading insane anti left bullshit. Social media was completely flooded with bots spreading misinformation leading up to all of Trump’s elections
America is the victim of the biggest and most advanced brainwashing campaign in the history of mankind and we all seem to be ignoring that fact when it is the single most important aspect of modern American and global politics.
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Pure cope.
You try changing people’s opinions when you can’t even agree on what is and what isn’t reality. I really don’t think you guys have any idea how broken half of this country is. We do. Because we have to deal with these people on a daily basis. Some of them are our family.
Sounds like a you problem
Then keep that shit to yourself
Woo woo woo woo lemmy police are here.
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I am, the others arent. Wait till the midterms are stolen. We will reach peak irony levels there and some more might be willing till talk.
Your neighbor’s nephew once wore blue jeans, so he’s basically a war criminal.
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We expect you to do your best
how about try to ask yourself: would you have shot hitler, had you been there, in nazi-germany? when all oposing parties and minorities were consecutively arrested and jailed?
There were several assassination attempts against Hitler, some of those attempts by Germans.
i am a german, i know of this stuff. i was just responding to the guy, who said, theres nothing, as an US-american, he can do about. Sure he can. Americans shouldnt belittle us, as to what happened during the time of nazi germany, when they wont do stuff themselves, when presented with an somewhat similar situation.
This Canadian agrees.
This is the best evidence we have for time travel
There have been several assassination attempts against Trump as well as consistent protests that are breaking participation records
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okay, so the google ai (i forgot to turn it off) says pre ww2 germany was about 633,000 square kilometers to the hogshead (including austria and sudentenland because idk i was up late). united states takes up about 9,150,000 square kilometers to the hogshead. does that explain the difference in size a little bit?
so what, the country is bigger, so any assasination on trump is riskier? or resistence to the covernment? i dont understand your logic, what does size of a country matter when presented with an president, who does fascist things, right in the front of you face. And the american people do nothing about it, they then are all complicit in his actions, as were deemed the german people during the nuremberg trials.
y’all are trying to say just walk over to dc. you seem to not understand the scale of things. you had a country, we have a continent to walk across. fucking bad faith nazi.
Yeah why aren’t me and you single handedly overthrowing this democratically elected government! We must be stupid or something
I love seeing foreigners asking Americans online why they don’t just stop this.
Like, motherfucker millions of us voted against this.
This is the result of multiple nations and multiple massive data analytics corps collaborating to create the biggest propaganda machine ever seen on earth which brainwashed millions of Americans.
But yeah. Why the fuck isnt Dave, the liberal from Vermont just walking to Washington and stopping this!!! /s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
It’s not, though. Europeans in the fediverse have consistently made this argument since the election.
No. But the American logic has always been “we must do something” -> “this is something” -> “therefore we must do it”. Take the dumbest idea and run with it, or use it as an excuse for inaction.
This why you guys are considered the dumbest people on Earth
Excellent retort. Now go feel high and mighty.
You’ve really made a difference by insulting people who agree with you and are already using their means to fight against this admin
You are a true revolutionary.
Wish you could go back in time and tell all the Jews in Germany who didn’t vote for Hitler that they are stupid for not stopping him. That would be really constructive. You could really save us some trouble there.
You’re comparing the american people to the jews in 1940? The jews were a tiny minority and they had the state AND the public against them.
i’ve literally seen you ask this
You are a coward. Along with the millions who stayed home on voting day, letting this global nightmare happen. 2nd amendment you yanks love to waive around in everyone’s face, was made for this. Yet … crickets.
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Careful with that edge, GreenCrybaby23.
The victim is the world and the murder-rapist is the us. We do think its fucked up you all live in the same house but there comes a point when maybe “don’t blame me I voted for Kodos” does not work when you are all buying the clown makeup for John Wayne Gacy.
Us citizens are the perpetrators of these global crimes. Your government acts in all your names
Wow, thats a bit of a crash out.
Makes a post like this and calls other people pathetic is a pretty legendary crash out.
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I unblocked you for a response, something I don’t usually waste my time on but this is so funny I had to point it out.
you have at least two alt accounts and are actively accusing and discrediting someone for the same thing. I think @[email protected] should at least know who they’re arguing with.
as if that wasn’t enough, you actually upvote all of your own comments with your alt accounts.
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it’s absurd, if you spent half that effort on being a normal human being nobody would be able to tell how pathetic you are.
anyway, good luck with whatever hate machine you’re building. if this is the best you can do you’re going to need it.
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sounds like someone is mad they got caught 🤣
tag me however you want, won’t make your actions any less pathetic.
for the record, I wouldn’t have even seen it if you hadn’t downvote bombed all my comments, but you piqued my interest enough to investigate your account.
I found some pretty interesting stuff. did you know that it’s possible to see all the downvote bombing you’ve done? like seriously dude…do you not have a life? not only that, but it seems you actually wrote a script to go through and do it for you because these timestamps are almost simultaneous.
I’m impressed that you could know enough to script something out and still be ignorant enough to leave breadcrumbs behind. real amateur hour stuff.
that’s not the only interesting thing either. I can see your upvotes too. it’s pretty telling tbh.
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I think I am missing the point here, why is this being shown as some sort of issue?
What a child.