Hell, even if the Republicans had held the convictions they espoused on Jan 7th, we’d be done with his insanity and cruelty…

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    I don’t want to make martyrs. I want them to grow old and frail watching their legacies crumble and their fortunes taken from them. Death is too quick for fascists.

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      Life is too short to waste on extremely dangerous lost causes. Decide, execute, learn, prevent, move on.

      Human rights are one thing. But extreme human rights violations and war criminals are another. Preaching tolerance for the intolerant is wrong.

      You ever watch the Alien movies? Imagine thinking jailing a xenomorph is a good idea. Hubris.

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        Except the xenomorph is an animal, a remorseless killing machine. Kill it, and it’s dead. It’s acid blood might burn a hole in the hull and turn all the astronauts into iced spaghetti, but its death is the beginning of the end of the problem.

        Trump is not our monster. He’s a symptom of the problem, like an infected cyst that forms due to autoimmune deficiency. His end will not make American great again. Our government needs to be able to function and expel infections like Trump without a violent coup, otherwise we’re just kicking the can down the road. We need a United States that can maintain its governmental functions regardless of who is in the seat of power, one where criminals are imprisoned efficiently until they can be rehabilitated, even if that never happens. As cathartic as it might be to see enemies punished, vengeance is not justice. Creating a system that cannot be capricious or vengeful is the only way to prevent despots from being capricious and vengeful. If we have learned anything, it’s that we cannot rely on our representatives being decent people with good intentions.

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          Still dead and last I checked they never rebuilt his regime.

          No matter what you do there is going to be some idiot that’ll worship any fascist

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            They never rebuilt his regime, but Togliatti, the chairman of the Italian Communist Party, signed an amnesty that pardoned or reduced sentences for fascists and partisans alike. So, many fascists simply transitioned into new positions of power in the newly formed Italian republic and aligned with the US anti-communist, anti-union agenda.

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            They never rebuilt the Mussolini regime because that’s never how fascism works. But… [gestures broadly at the current state of the world]

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              I mean it’s been 80 years. These shitheads would have admired him if he was hung or died shitting his pants at 80.

              His death was effective for the people at the time

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      There is no purpose to a bad person suffering, but I’d be lying if I said would not feel gleeful catharsis if certain powerful people’s finger nails were ripped out, their eye’s gouged, their balls smashed, their individual teeth crushed and ripped out, their skin then flayed off their bodies, and then their whole bodies set on fire to finish them off.

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        Please stop talking like that. This is like describing the most delicious hamburger to guys starving in a POW camp.

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        Sure, but that’s exactly why people should not have the authority to decide punishments. Even if I agreed with you in this case, capricious torture would absolutely be used by the people we hate against the people we care about. Our first order of business should be to restore a functional justice system.