• MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    You are over estimating the importance of american products. Android has 60% market share in eu while iphone has 39%. Norway and Algeria supplied both more LNG to europe than USA in 2024.

    At Q3. 2025 EU bought only 14,5% of our petrolium oil from USA. Norway alone was 14,6%.

    EU is allready looking into making our own replacement for visa and mastercard.

    Food and drink is not really a problem as many processed products USA produces already recognized as non suitable for human consuption. South america will be happy to provide nuts and fruits for EU. Especially when their neighboring country is acting hostile towards them at the moment and most alchohol USA produce is considered bottomself stuff.

    Car imports from the USA has been falling for years, even before Trumps tarifs.

    I think windows is hardest to shake as most businesses use it and most softwares are designed to use it.

    Cultural things like movies, tv series and music and somesoftware are also hard to replace.

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      2 hours ago

      I forgot to mention Google’s Android. So it seems nearly 100% of the EU is using a US controlled device in their pocket. Nice little spy devices.

      “Algeria’s growing willingness to collaborate with the United States should not be seen solely as a security measure, but as part of a comprehensive strategy to reposition itself geopolitically in an increasingly unstable international environment.” https://www.atalayar.com/en/articulo/politics/russias-growing-influence-in-the-sahel-is-forcing-algeria-to-rethink-its-defence-strategy/20250510130000214532.html

      If Algeria gets in bed with US oligarchs, then they will be used as a pawn against the EU. What would you do in winter when some pressure campaign or insurgency is upon you, but budgeted energy is cut short?

      A lot of expensive painful changes will have to happen in the EU. Individuals are weak and don’t want their boat rocked. A great period of austerity may be needed to fund the changes. Individuals will hang on to lifestyles that they are accustomed to, and expect the same in the future. When presented with reality, they will experience cognitive dissonance. Many individuals will choose to fool themselves that there is another way, or that things aren’t bad enough to warrant the loss of what they expected their short existence to be like.

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        7 minutes ago

        Android is open source. Google makes money trough playstore and youtube. Google pays for phone manufactorers so they keep apps like maps and gmail preinstalled on the phones. If at some point there would be situation where company like samsung would need to choose between googles money or their biggest market, market wins. By a huge margin.

        USA has hard time stopping Algeria from trading with EU by any other way than military force. EU is their biggest trade partner. 48% of their trade is to European Union.

        Also where you get the individuals are weak thing? Like i already said. You are over estimating the importance American trade. And you are forgetting trade goes both ways.

        Millions of jobs in the United States are related to EU-US trade and investment. The European Union is a reliable source of critical supplies to the United States, including medicinal ingredients and pharmaceutical products, advanced machinery and equipment, and aerospace parts and components. At the same time, the European Union is the largest buyer of the United States’ natural gas and oil, but states are not the biggest importer of gas and oil for EU.

        Total bilateral trade in goods between the EU and the US reached €851 billion in 2023. The EU exported €503 billion of goods to the US market, while importing €347 billion; this resulted in a goods trade surplus of €157 billion for the EU. Total bilateral trade in services between the EU and the US was worth €746 billion in 2023. The EU exported €319 billion of services to the US, while importing €427 billion from the US; this resulted in a services trade deficit of €109 billion for the EU.

        The difference between EU exports to the US and US exports to the EU stood at €48 billion in 2023; the equivalent of just 3% of the total trade between the EU and the US.

        Also since you like to talk about the oligarchs.

        The EU and the US are also major investment partners. EU and US firms have €4.7 trillion worth of investment in each other’s markets (2023 data).

        How do you think these oligarchs feel if that 5,5 trillion dollars of investments start to unravel.