Oh, do I have so many choice colorful words I would love to yell at in Vietnamese.

  • Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    When a Cheeto gets people murdered in the streets, that’s politics

    We can do this all day bro, I get what you are saying but I’m going to respectfully disagree. Yes politics are cool when you define them as “human cooperation” but that’s a really broad and wide definition that fails to capture a shitload of nuance. So yeah. If you just say “cooperation is cool” I guess you’re right. Not exactly deep though and one could argue that tools, ingenuity, love, the desire to explore and adventure, the thirst for knowledge, all off those other things drove the good parts of society… Not politics. So I am going to respectfully disagree.

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      14 hours ago

      I’m not saying politics is all good, but politics gives humans the power to make all those nice things you said mean something. Tools only get passed on to the next generation because of schools and apprenticeships; political organisation of knowledge. Ingenuity only has a lasting effect because of education politics, and the political organisation of philosophy and science. Climbing Mount Everest and landing on the moon would be difficult or impossible without politics to make supply chains and organise expedition parties. Knowledge would die in a generation if not for our politics, like it does with octopodes, an animal just as smart as humans, but apolitical.

      And I think love is an inherently political emotion. Apolitical animals like octopodes or lizards don’t have an evolutionary reason to develop love, except perhaps sexual love for reproduction. Look at seahorses and how political and loving they are in comparison. Or penguins. So very political, so very loving. They care for their partners and children for a long time. Love is what binds them together and lets them do all those politics. Compare with eagles, whose most advanced political organisation is “get off my lawn”. Their lack of love makes them less political.