Actually I looked up the real story of Johnny Appleseed and he was more about making hard cider and selling land. 🙃

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    15 hours ago

    Sorry for the YouTube link, if anyone can find it hosted elsewhere let me know I’ll update my post.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=aD_Tyj-wbC4

    Johnny never really profited. By all accounts he was likely neurodivergent and Apple Trees were his special interest. His labor and efforts to educate others was leveraged by others to snatch land up and proof of improvement to the land for homesteading.

    The US government was absolutely at fault for the genocide of indigenous peoples. But Johnny was at worse a useful idiot and at best a roving horticulturist who wasn’t very good at owning land.

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      Useful idiot or not, the fact is, according to The Technician at least, he was a successful businessman, so somebody is wrong here.

      I’m too old and cynical to believe that it wasn’t a scam, ND or not, and that doesn’t absolve him from complicity.

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          C’mon man, he’s already established that he’s old! Once you reach a certain age, facts don’t matter, just fee-fees.

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          Probably, but I don’t care enough to look them up.

          Factoids aren’t my special interest any more since I became disabled.

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            You’ll go about spouting things as if they are facts, and when questioned you simply hand-wave them away as if checks comments “being old” and “being disabled” are in any way supporting your point.

            You sound exactly like my MAGA in-laws.

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              I can see you don’t come from a very smart family then.

              At some point you’ll realize that not every little thing you say needs a citation because some kid on the internet gets his panties in a twist.

              Calm down, buddy, you’re gonna pop a blood vessel.

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            Then why are you caring enough to continue being a nuisance?

            Either you have something of substance to say on the matter, or you shut up and listen what people that have can tell you, arrogant old man.

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              13 hours ago

              I’m both easily entertained and easily amused.

              And you guys are apparently so thin-skinned you can’t help being reactive little bunnies.

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                Let me elaborate, because your ego-driven brain didn’t register what i said.

                You’re not laughing at my expense, you’re laughing while shitting your own pants. I pointed that out, and now you’re saying that you’re feeling amused because of how thin-skinned i am.

                The only thing i feel, is distaste and resentment towards your inability to accept the fact that you’re wrong at something as minor, your pathetic attempts to heal your wounded ego after, and your supposed tendency to make yourself feel good at the expense of others.

                The last one is especially ironic considering that you seem to be far left.

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            If you aren’t going to find sources to backup your nonsense then please just keep it to yourself.