• BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Interesting is the idea that a lot of conservative people sign up for the military and those that stay in longer typically become less conservative. While those who just do their 2 and done are still worthless CHUDs. I don’t know if it’s a widespread phenomena but I’ve heard of a lot of spec ops guys who go in and come out being progressives at least.

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      I mean, the stationing of US soldiers in NATO bases in Europe is pretty much an echange program, hopefully some of them learned something from it. I for sure think there are more reasonable people in the US military than in the government. But that’s a terrifyingly low bar.

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      those that stay in longer typically become less conservative

      Any source on this? Feels like you’re just making shit up.

      Those CHUDS that did 2 tours and stopped have less blood on their hands. Those that stayed are certainly not more virtuous like you’re trying to imply, even if they ended up becoming libs (doubt it).

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        the idea

        The idea being that the longer they’re part of the machine, the more they realise the atrocities it commits, and begin to oppose it.

        For example:

        You join the army, you’re trained to kill, you’re told the Afghani’s are the enemy, you do a tour, fire a few rounds, come home, the idea of Afghani’s being the enemy remains.

        Versus, you do 8 tours, start to realise that they’re people just like any other. Trying to live their lives, being outgunned at every turn and living in poverty while you storm over them with tanks and jets. While you yourself simultaneously are being treated like shit by COs and politicians.


        I don’t think that’s a hard concept to grasp. It’s not about virtue, it’s about who opens their eyes to the reality of life and who doesn’t. Being left wing doesn’t automatically make you morally superior to a right wing person.

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          you do 8 tours, start to realise that they’re people just like any other.

          If it takes you 8 tours of murdering to realize they’re people, you shoulda got your face blasted a long time ago.

          The person at home that thinks Afghanis are evil is still less demonic than the person that continued to murder.

          Murder is not some journey to enlightenment. What a sick mindset…