You’re creating an incredibly high barrier for change, which only leads to inaction. The more issues you tie together, the less consensus you can get
There is always another issue to point to. What about malaria? That kills more people each year than all global wars combined. When was the last time you donated to anti-malaria efforts?
We should be agreeing on the topic at hand, not attacking each other over separate issues. You’ll never agree on every issue, but you can always agree on at least one issue
You’re missing their point. Two things we know about Hasan:
He’s an influential and outspoken critic of human rights abuses, which has made him a target of the people/institutions responsible
He might have used a shock collar to train his dog which he might have used on stream
Even if the latter is true, giving more weight to it than the former seems pretty disproportionate (imo).
As a vegan I abhor violence toward animals (and humans) and was dismayed when I saw the original clip. But after being absolutely pummelled with bs outrage “analysis” videos, to me it became clear that there was a coordinated campaign being waged to smear him, very likely from those whose abuses he criticizes.
If he uses a shock collar to train his dog, I do not like that. Ultimately, my conclusion though is that I do know that he has consistenty taken a stand against fascism, and to me it is clear which of those has more substance.
well that’s great, glad to hear that!
you might want to change your password or something bc someone is posting otherwise on your account, which is so weird.
I am mostly vegetarian, eating meat only once a week
“I have animals slaughtered for me on a weekly basis and lie about it, but I’m deeply concerned about unsubstantiated rumors about a leftist streamer using a shock collar.”
Yes. Cant get me with “what-about-the-other-animals”
Pretty rich to say that when this whole digression is just going “what-about-hasan’s-dog” to an unrelated incident.
It was pretty obvious since you value an alleged dog shock collar more than brown babies
This mentality is so supremely unhelpful
You’re creating an incredibly high barrier for change, which only leads to inaction. The more issues you tie together, the less consensus you can get
There is always another issue to point to. What about malaria? That kills more people each year than all global wars combined. When was the last time you donated to anti-malaria efforts?
We should be agreeing on the topic at hand, not attacking each other over separate issues. You’ll never agree on every issue, but you can always agree on at least one issue
Which is why he shouldn’t do whataboutism purity testing in a thread about Zionist censorship?
You’re missing their point. Two things we know about Hasan:
Even if the latter is true, giving more weight to it than the former seems pretty disproportionate (imo).
As a vegan I abhor violence toward animals (and humans) and was dismayed when I saw the original clip. But after being absolutely pummelled with bs outrage “analysis” videos, to me it became clear that there was a coordinated campaign being waged to smear him, very likely from those whose abuses he criticizes.
If he uses a shock collar to train his dog, I do not like that. Ultimately, my conclusion though is that I do know that he has consistenty taken a stand against fascism, and to me it is clear which of those has more substance.
well that’s great, glad to hear that! you might want to change your password or something bc someone is posting otherwise on your account, which is so weird.
Yeah guess what time changes and diets change. Also wow you really looked threw my comments just to find that? Lmaoooo
“I have animals slaughtered for me on a weekly basis and lie about it, but I’m deeply concerned about unsubstantiated rumors about a leftist streamer using a shock collar.”
Least bad faith carnist.
You got caught lying, take your L and move on
lol it was the first page, four days ago. glad you’ve switched though!