• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    So when you go to a restaurant and they say “do you have any dietary restrictions”, you can reply “I’m Catholic” and they should guess what that means?

    Vegan is an overloaded word that is both a diet and an ethos. Don’t try and restrict the language. You will not win.

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      5 days ago

      The issue here is that veganism is regarded as a diet by the popular culture and fad dieters, not vegans. Your insistance that we not try to correct the record is like asking middle easterners not to set things straight when people assume all of them are Arabians or Muslim.

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        5 days ago

        Veganism is regarded as a diet by vegans. The diet kind of vegans. You’re doing a No True Scotsman.

        You can certainly try to fight language. It doesn’t usually work. Good luck!

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          Veganism is regarded as a diet by vegans.

          It is most commonly discussed in terms of diet, because that is something that is encountered most frequently. How often do you eat compared to how often you buy new shoes? A few times per day vs a few times per year?

          Veganism most definitely goes beyond diet, even if food is by far the most common context .

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            5 days ago

            It can, sure. It’s also a convenient way to tell the waitress you don’t eat animal products, even if you do wear leather.

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          1. I am vegan. I know what I’m talking about.
          2. All kinds of people call themselves a vegan without without actually being one.
          3. It’s not a no true Scotsman because I’m using the actual definition for what veganism is, the one given by the vegan society. You’re making a category error here.
          4. I will absolutely fight language when language is wrong. I have had several times in my life where I gave up the colloquial definitions that I’ve lived with in order to have my views more accurately reflect the words that members of specific communities use to define themselves. Otherwise I’d think that bisexuals only dated men and women, ace people are incapable of romantic attraction, all feminists hate men, and that trans people can’t be trans without clinically diagnoseable dysphoria.
          5. Thanks for the luck, but I’m blocking you. Have a lovely day.