• Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      The seven other times they didn’t say it and the friend remained in the relationship.

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        17 minutes ago

        Divination will never tell you to do or not do something. They’re really not tools for reading the future so they don’t prescript behavior they just describe a scene.

        A horrible dark reading can easily be misconstrued if you’re lying to yourself. Hence the joke.

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        8 hours ago

        The meme wants to say that they are trying to tell their friend to dump him and after 7 times of their friend not getting it (or not noticing that getting relationship advice 7 times is not a good sign for the relationship) they need to spell it out directly.

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          4 hours ago

          But they didn’t get real relationship advice, they asked for a card reading. That their own uncertainty in the relationship has lead them to consult an outside force 8 times is my whole point - if you are giving them readings, at some point you are in part responsible for not speaking up and instead allowing them to convince themselves to stay in that relationship. You are the one aiding their interpretation of the cards - you are, at the very least through your inaction by not directly confronting them, helping them to convince themselves to stay.

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            4 hours ago

            But they did speak up see the meme and holy shit it’s only a meme don’t read so much into it. It’s just supposed to be a joke about someone too dense to get the hint.

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              4 hours ago

              Spelling words with cards is not directly telling them to do something (or directly expressing yourself at all), and my one sentence criticism of a religious practice that started this is barely taking something too seriously. The previous comment was simply to clarify my position, since you misunderstood what I was saying.

              It is perhaps the people leaping to defend the poor behavior in the meme that are taking it too seriously - why feel the need to be defensive over the criticism of behavior in a meme in the first place?

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        8 hours ago

        There is no implication that the previous times the subject used tarot to convince the person to stay in their relationship. If anything it’s the opposite.

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          I don’t mean to say that they dirrctly convinced them to stay in the relationship - I mean that they spent seven sessions giving their friend a reading and even on the 8th time, with a clear deeply held opinion, they are hiding their actual feelings behind the concit of a card game. They need to speak up and express their concerns to their friend directly, not attempt subtly hint to their friend via the mechanisms of chance.

          If you actually want them to do something, just tell them, don’t enable them to keep convincing themselves to stay in a bad situation by being disingenuous with them like this.

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            4 hours ago

            Laying out the cards like this is not hiding your actual feelings.

            Do you realise the post is a joke?

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              4 hours ago

              It’s literally relying on a message written in the cards to convey your feelings to them - the entire premise of the joke is about not being direct with your friend.

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                  4 hours ago

                  I seriously doubt I would consider you my friend.

                  Within the premise of the meme it’s relying on the cards to tell them for you, and aside from that no matter how you frame it it’s not sitting down to directly express yourself. My criticism is about not engaging with them directly over time, allowing them to stay in what (to the presumed author here) is a detrimental relationship because of your own previous unwillingness to engage with them directly.