• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    And those people are still insisting that we don’t blame them for the consequences of their decisions.

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      8 hours ago

      I just think that the blame should be squarely on the people who actively voted for the fascism.

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        8 hours ago

        But what if we can find a way to scream at people that agree with us on 80-90% of issues instead? That seems more productive than focusing on the actual Nazis!

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        7 hours ago

        There were more non-voters than there were voters for Orangina

        I’m going to keep holding them accountable too!

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        6 hours ago

        Not lifting a finger against fascism is actively voting for fascism. Yes, the choices were all bad, but one was obviously much, much worse and they made a choice. Nobody gets a pass for gross negligence simply because irresponsible decisions were lower-effort than others.

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      10 hours ago

      Of course, and I don’t fault them the impulse. No one likes being told they fucked up, which was why so many of us were so vocal before the election. I don’t even want to assign blame, instead to just help them to understand that (if our democracy can withstand this), we genuinely need them…

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        9 hours ago

        Like you, I was a consequentialist before the election. I’m struggling to stay that way and now I might be a virtue ethicist who hates all US citizens who were not consequentialist before November 5th 2024 because I think they’re just shit fucking people not worth saving.

        Part of me wants to be wrong. I want to be convinced. And yet I’m always going to be deeply fucking resentful if I find myself helping these people ever again. I shouldn’t have to lift a fucking finger. Doing so literally psychologically hurts.