• halfsalesman@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    That’s a shit fucking point. A better point: fascists won and they did not need to.

    Neo-liberals are not fascists. They’re greedy, nihilistic, empty husks. But they are not frothing at the mouth for killing gay’s and gassing brown people. Neo-liberals can actually be relied upon to be capitalistic and not give a shit about nationalism or “traditional values” and are generally easier to fight because they don’t operate a cult (or at least not like the fascists do).

    Some non-voter’s justification of “they’re both the same” is pants on head regarded.

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            20 hours ago

            See, I need to know then how serious that perspective is because for me, blurring the lines between ideologies (even bad ones) is largely just an emotional manipulation tactic.

            You call a neo-liberal a fascist and they’ll get really upset. You call a fascist a liberal of any kind… they’ll also get really upset. So if that’s the goal that makes sense. But then leftists will say it to other leftists like its actually true, particularly campists, auth-left, and marxist-leninists will do this and this just seems dumb to me. They are different threats and should be treated differently.

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              I think you misunderstand the origins and meaning of the saying. The saying itself is based on historical context, where liberals in places like Italy and Germany chose to support growing fascist movements in the name of maintaining some sort of stability and perceived normalcy, instead of combatting those movements alongside communists and socialists. As an example, in my opinion we are seeing the same history play out again in the modern United States as various corporations, universities, and state governments, etc are following along with certain policies of the Trump administration in order to maintain normalcy instead of choosing to resist those policies and cause an upset. The saying “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds” is based on the historical kowtowing of moderates and liberals to fascist movements instead of choosing to resist.

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        2 days ago

        This is the single dumbest meme I’ve ever seen in my life and you should be ashamed because I cannot be ashamed enough for the both of us that you posted this.

        Dial 911 and ask the operator to help you get back in school.