• RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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    It’s a good time to remember that the “stars and bars“ was not commonly used until the 1948 presidential election when the Dixiecrats used it as a Ku Klux Klan dog whistle.

    It was never the symbol of the Confederate states of America, only one little battle group in Virginia.

    That’s sad, not every Southerner, who takes pride and being a Southerner is a slobbering racist.

    if you really wanna get past this current hate filled chapter and move onto a better society, we have to have a way or Southerners to have pride in the good parts of their culture. The same way we let other cultures off the hook for the bad things that have happened in their culture.

    it is certainly not fair to hold people of African descent responsible for the fact that the worst part of rounding up the people that were used in the slave trade was done by Africans.

    Still, to hell with the MAGAts, they’re doing this shit on purpose and they know what they’re doing.

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      The stars and bars is not the flag in the picture, it’s the one with the circle of stars in blue in top left corner with 2 red horizontal stripes and 1 white stripe. That was used as the first flag of the Confederacy. The one in the picture and the one everyone thinks of as the Confederate flag is their battle flag which became part of their second and third flags, the Stainless Banner and the Bloodstained Banner.

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    I think I should be able to celebrate my German heritage with a Swastika on my license plate. It isn’t about racism or anti-Semitism, I just want to celebrate my German Pride.

    /S, I’m Irish, mostly.

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    “Removal of citizens’ right to have (the license plates) is deliberate discrimination by the government and the state of Virginia … only hatred and discrimination by the Commonwealth causes a committee vote to remove them,” Edward Willis, a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, told the panel.

    So according to this racist asshole removing the traitor’s flag, which is a genuine symbol of hatred and discrimination from a government license plate IS hatred and discrimination.

    These people are unbelievable.

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      They speak in bad faith. They’re just racists who are too coward to admit that they’re racist and feign outrage to justify being racist.

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        Exactly. They are the worst people in our nation, absolute unapologetic INTERGENERATIONAL traitors. We have no obligation to listen their treasonous whines. They’re lucky their bloodlines still exist, in many places they would have been rounded up and executed over the last 150 years.

        Americans, especially Democrats, have a pathological need to be polite, especially to bad people who are trying to exploit us. Not accepting bad treatment from bad people does not make us as bad as them, it makes us strong enough to be leaders. And those who refuse to stand up to bad people don’t deserve positions of leadership.

        Hear that Schmuck & Jeffries?

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      I bet you anything he’d figure out right quick why it isn’t discrimination if folks wanted to put the progress pride flag on their license plates.

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      You should check out the history of some state flags like Georgia’s and to a lesser extent Alabama’s. Ridiculous how long the stars and bars was accepted

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            You should see rural Pennsylvania. It is truly wild how less populated areas universally and unanimously decided to be home to the biggest pieces of shit.

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            The Mason-Dixon Line was drawn including Maryland to the south, and defined political divide for centuries. Maryland was considered “southern” until the 60s. It was the first state to become progressive and creep closer to the Union states north of it.

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              yes, that’s my point. maryland was a slave state, but it didn’t secede. so there’s really only one way to interpret those flags, and it ain’t culture or heritage.

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                Arguably the main reason it didn’t succeed was that Lincoln established Marshall law and sent in federal troops.

                Sentiments among the population of Maryland was divided, but definently favorable to succession.

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                  Another fun fact, the Mason-Dixon Line was surveyed and drawn between 1763-1767, predating any belligerence of the revolutionary war.

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            They can’t be near people. They quickly get outed as complete cunts. So they flee to the edges where it’s easier to hide.

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      VA was a red state until very recently. Now it’s like light blue/purple. Still lots of stars and bars being flown down in southwestern VA.

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        That’s wild. Every time I drive through West Virginia and see confederate flags flying, I have to marvel at the purest form of irony to exist in these modern times.

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          Yeah the North/South divide has mostly morphed to Urban/Rural. You’ll see Confederate flags all over central PA too.

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        My grandparents fought for the Third Reich, that’s why I proudly fly the swastika on the bed of my truck! It’s just my heritage, bro.

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        I grew up in the South and have reflected on this often. Growing up the history of the Confederacy was “white washed” (literally and figuratively). It was always taught as slavery was bad, but the war was about “states rights”.

        Obviously that is all untrue the war was about slavery, but this is what was taught for generations. The Confederate flag was of course tied to this lie, and companies ran with it. I remember seeing Confederate flag branded merchandise in Walmarts, it was at football games, and of course on TV. It wasn’t being displayed in a negative light by companies then, they saw dollars and helped push the symbol.

        Overall it’s a good change that the flag is being dropped. The Confederacy is not something to be idolized. I do understand why some people were so very attached to the “heritage” aspect of it though. That lie was pushed before my great grandparents were born. Some people are unwilling or unable to critically analyze their beliefs and change them with new information.

        It’s kinda interesting how people can be both incredibly adaptable and at the same time incredibly cemented in taught cultural traditions. And if you haven’t guess by now I do have an anthropology degree lol

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          Oh, it was about States’ Rights.

          States’ Rights to have slaves. That last part gets ‘em every time.

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            Of course it didn’t extend to states’ rights to house free slaves after the passing of the Fugitive Slave Act

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        Lee–Jackson–King’s Day ? They’ve got this all wrong! It was meant to be “Lee–Jackson : Kings!” Day.

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    I personally think everyone should have the right to fly the confederate flag and i also think anyone flying it should be prosecuted for hate crimes.

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    Sad loser traitors still virtue signalling all these years later. What a pathetic group of people. Thank fuck I’m not like them.